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From: system@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca (System Admin (Mike Peterson))
Subject: Re: Bug with cp -r and ACLs (long)
Message-ID: <1991Feb7.183550.8329@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca>
Organization: University of Toronto Chemistry Department
References: <1991Feb3.001547.8838@mentorg.com> <9102061706.aa14313@concour.cs.concordia.ca>
Date: Thu, 7 Feb 1991 18:35:50 GMT

In article <9102061706.aa14313@concour.cs.concordia.ca> goldfish@CONCOUR.CS.CONCORDIA.CA writes:
>It is probably worth keeping some Aegis commands online for system
>level things ... 

Unfortunately I have to agree with this statement - there is however the
fact that HP/Apollo advertises that any/all environments can be used, where
there are cases where this is simply not the case. A prime example is
'/com/sigp', which is needed to kill processes that won't die with 'kill
-9' (which is the untrappable UNIX kill signal).

>  Grumbling about inconsistencies between BSD and Domain when
>  there is a perfectly good way to do it with an AEGIS tool is
>  misplaced religious zeal ... What I would really like is
>  crossreferencing in the online BSD man pages to the
>  corresponding AEGIS commands to help me locate these methods.

There is the problem though, that if you don't have Aegis loaded in your
AA in the first place, or don't have the disk space for it, you are stuck.
We are a multi-vendor UNIX site, and the users have enough trouble with
UNIX without being told/expected to learn Aegis too.
In my case, such cross referencing is the only way I'll ever find out
what Aegis commands do anything - I would never have found the 'cpt' (or
whatever it was) that is able to copy a directory subtree properly.
-- 
Mike Peterson, System Administrator, U/Toronto Department of Chemistry
E-mail: system@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca
Tel: (416) 978-7094                  Fax: (416) 978-8775