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From: unknown@ucscb.UCSC.EDU (The Unknown User)
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Subject: Re: Wings  (was:Re: GS/OS Reording)
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Date: 24 Jan 91 09:13:54 GMT
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In article <1991Jan23.224738.17137@julius.cs.uiuc.edu> knauer@cs.uiuc.edu (Rob Knauerhase) writes:
>In article <11434@darkstar.ucsc.edu> unknown@ucscb.UCSC.EDU (The Unknown User) writes:
>>	I think that for general file utilities, Wings "beats the tar out of"
>>ProSEL 16!  There's no reorder directory command that I can remember (Oh
>>wait, there's alphebetizing of directories, and maybe there's also moving
>>files around directories)....
>
>    There is sorting by name, type, date, etc. as well as moving of
>individual files.

	I was talking about WINGS. From what you say later in this article,
you've never seen Wings. From the way you've worded a few of your comments,
I am presuming you're thinking I'm talking about ProSEL when I'm really
talking about Wings!

>I can't comment on this since I haven't seen Wings yet.  But, does it allow

	Duhh, you just said it right there. (Haven't seen Wings)

>Other than the launcher, does it have:
>  file utilities including the usual copy, delete, etc. plus undelete,
>    format, wipe, move, dump, disassemble, etc.?
	I don't know about dump and disassemble (and doubt it), but the
other ones, yes it has them.

>  a volume optimizer?
	No, Wings is a launcher and general file utility program. There's 
another program by Vitesse for volume optimizing.
>  an automatic "salvage what you can even though the disk is trashed"?
>  a super-smart, fast volume backup?
	Same as my last answer. "Salvation" is what you're looking for for
disk backup/recovery, but I don't know about its capabilities.

>  an appointment book/etc.?
>  a fully programmable RPN claculator, programs save-able to disk?
	You ARE kidding about these two right?! I think you're totally 
unfamiliar with what Wings is. Not an insult, but the truth.

>  a find-file?
>  a system-info?
	Uhh... I think it has those two.

>to save space on 3.5" disks?  Do they work in text mode OR a nifty (and FAST)
>super-hi-res mode?
	It's in Super Hires.. And it's relatively fast.

>I could go on and on.  ProSel 16 is the closest thing to Norton Utilities
>for the GS, except in many cases it's either faster or offers a superset of
>NU's features.
	Don't EVEN compare Apple based programs to Norton Utilities.
(With the "originator" being Norton Utilities).  Norton Utilities is just a
copy of Copy II Plus! (with a ton of extensions)

>>Finder except it for some reason does ONE FILE at a time, not as many
>>as memory allows like the Finder does. (That's my biggest compliment to
>>the Finder, that it does file copying faster than anything else)
>
>Maybe you're thinking of cat.doctor, a utility that comes with ProSel 8 for
>the //e (which you get with purchase of ProSel 16).  Once, the Finder was the
>only program to use sessions, but very shortly thereafter ProSel began using
>them, and now they're common fare.  In fact, I'd bet ProSel is faster since
>it's coded in assembly and Bredon is an excellent programmer.
	I was talking about WINGS, not ProSEL!

>In short, I'll look at Wings this weekend, but I would bet money even before
>seeing it that ProSel blows it away.  Of all the Apple II software I've
	Nope, I just like Wings better. Of course for some of the
features ProSEL is worth it, but not for the general everyday file utilities
and launching capabilities.


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