Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!samsung!uakari.primate.wisc.edu!dali.cs.montana.edu!milton!Tomobiki-Cho!mrc From: mrc@Tomobiki-Cho.CAC.Washington.EDU (Mark Crispin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next Subject: Re: X11 for the NeXTstation Keywords: X Server, X11, XNeXT Message-ID: <14324@milton.u.washington.edu> Date: 13 Jan 91 22:56:39 GMT References: <34009@athertn.Atherton.COM> <1991Jan10.020437.14465@cs.mcgill.ca> <17136@csli.Stanford.EDU> Sender: news@milton.u.washington.edu Organization: Mendou Zaibatsu, Tomobiki-Cho, Butsumetsu-Shi Lines: 39 In article <17136@csli.Stanford.EDU> poser@csli.Stanford.EDU (Bill Poser) writes: >In case people at NeXT are reading this, let me reiterate Peter Deutsch's >statement that the lack of X support is costing them sales. I am seriously >considering the purchase of a NeXT machine, but am now having second >thoughts because of what I have heard about the problems with X11R4 >under 2.0. It doesn't matter to me how wonderful NextStep is. If it >is nice, that is a plus. But the rest of our environment is X. >If I don't have X, I can't run programs over the network, and I can't >port software to the NeXT without major hassles. So I'm going to check >on SUN again and see if I can get what I want from them. NeXT may lose >a sale. Count me in on this too, and I'm planning on a home system without a network interconnect. All I've seen in terms of NextStep support for kanji (Japanese: JIS code), and hantzu (Chinese: GB (mainland) and BIG5 (Taiwan)) is vapor. I'm still not convinced either that the terminal emulator in 2.0 is completely in accordance with ANSI terminals yet. I regularly access systems which require you to be on a *correct* ANSI terminal. Terminal under 1.0 was horrible, and I've heard some bad things about the new one in 2.0. xterm, kterm, and ccxterm under XNeXT work now. But the news that XNeXT is broken on 2.0 with no fix in sight is devastating news. I am seriously planning to buy a NeXTstation, but I have an attractive quotation from DEC for a DECstation 2100 and I'm going to be giving SUN a call. NeXT is still the leading contender, if only for compatibility with my office system, but X may tip the balance. _____ | ____ ___|___ /__ Mark ("Gaijin") Crispin "Gaijin! Gaijin!" _|_|_ -|- || __|__ / / R90/6 pilot, DoD #0105 "Gaijin ha doko?" |_|_|_| |\-++- |===| / / Atheist & Proud "Niichan ha gaijin." --|-- /| |||| |___| /\ (206) 842-2385/543-5762 "Chigau. Omae ha gaijin." /|\ | |/\| _______ / \ FAX: (206) 543-3909 "Iie, boku ha nihonjin." / | \ | |__| / \ / \MRC@CAC.Washington.EDU "Souka. Yappari gaijin!" Hee, dakedo UNIX nanka wo tsukatte, umaku ikanaku temo shiranai yo.