Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!sdd.hp.com!uakari.primate.wisc.edu!zazen!news From: anderson@macc.wisc.edu (Jess Anderson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next Subject: Re: Bogus Financing Message-ID: <1991Feb10.050226.16434@macc.wisc.edu> Date: 10 Feb 91 05:02:26 GMT References: <4065@orbit.cts.com> Sender: news@macc.wisc.edu (USENET News System) Organization: Madison Academic Computing Center, UW-Madison Lines: 66 In article <4065@orbit.cts.com> reichard@pnet51.orb.mn.org (Kevin Reichard) writes: >anderson@dogie.macc.wisc.edu (Jess Anderson) writes: [re whether NeXT should be in the banking business] >>Our credit union will finance computer purchases by faculty, >>students, and staff. I think other institutions of higher >>learning have similar arrangements. I think NeXT has its >>hands full enough without setting up a financing arm at this >>point. >The UW Credit Union's interest rate two years ago was 16 >percent, while the credit union I used (CUNA) was 14 >percent. A 16 percent interest rate ain't that good a deal, >Jess--on the educational end, IBM's new financing rate is >under 10 percent, while Apple's old financing rate was >around 8. And how do IBM's and Apple's gross sales compare to NeXT's? Banking is a tough business, one that needs lots of liquidity. I bought a car at 9% three years ago through the UW Credit Union, but that's not really the point. A person can (and should) always shop for credit, and credit unions are not the cheapest commercial sources of around (banks are). But how good the deal is, I think, is really a measure of what one is willing to do -- the harsh reality is: what you want, you gotta pay for. If NeXT decided to become a bank, on top of all their other problems, they'd need another giant influx of cash to capitalize the venture, and they'd need a way to write off loans that turned into bad debt. That would mean higher computer prices. I think NeXT should stay with what it does best: building computers. And there's no such thing as a low enough price: you could give them away and people would still be wanting you to lower the price. In terms of financing, buying a computer is not much different from buying anything else. You shop around for the money and you pay the going rates (they're coming down lately, too). >There's very little hassle with setting up a financing >arm -- look at the early Apple (a Steve Jobs' project, no >less!) for a classic lesson on infiltrating society through >the universities. We evidently have a different idea of what size hassle it is. Times have changed quite a bit since "early Apple." If financing NeXT customers were such a hot idea, somebody would probably be doing it by now. <> Old age is the most unexpected of all the things that <> happen to a man. -- Leon Trotsky -- Jess Anderson <> Madison Academic Computing Center <> University of Wisconsin Internet: anderson@macc.wisc.edu <-best, UUCP:{}!uwvax!macc.wisc.edu!anderson NeXTmail w/attachments: anderson@yak.macc.wisc.edu Bitnet: anderson@wiscmacc Room 3130 <> 1210 West Dayton Street / Madison WI 53706 <> Phone 608/262-5888