Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!swrinde!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!bronze!cica!travis!greg From: greg@travis.cica.indiana.edu (Gregory TRAVIS) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next Subject: Re: Death of OS/2? (was Re: Microsoft OS/2?) Keywords: OS/2, Presentation Manager, Microsoft Message-ID: Date: 11 Feb 91 02:34:31 GMT References: <2467@beguine.UUCP> <29814@usc> <70447@microsoft.UUCP> Sender: news@cica.cica.indiana.edu Lines: 56 gordonl@microsoft.UUCP (Gordon LETWIN) writes: >And folks like to complain that Microsoft people are arrogant! >Say, Ajay, if you're so smart.... how come you're not working >at Microsoft? Perhaps he likes to sleep at night. >Also, Ajay, who is the single biggest provider of Unix software? >A silly little toy-software company called "Microsoft". >I've encountered hostility from "the real world" since day one, when >I started the Microsoft OS group. Our first product, even though we're >such pathetic excuses for programmers, was an operating system. It was >called "UNIX". I don't pay much attention to UNIX these days, but I >seem to recall a few years ago that "the best minds" at AT&T bought some >UNIX technology from an outside vendor - a company by the name of "Microsoft". Would you please elaborate on this one Gordon? I've only been working on UNIX systems for well over a decade. How did AT&T get their names on all those manuals? Gee, I wish you guys still turned out systems like the old days. >Because we have some products which self described "computer hot shots" >like to sneer at, hostile types like to pretend that we're just a bunch >of duffers who "got lucky". Most of our products - even those beneath >the dignity of a guru - require a lot of skill and effort. The quality >of our talent is at least as good - and often better - than any other >place you might be able to name. Come interview us and find out. Why would anyone want to interview with a pack of liars. Face it Gordon, you lost. >And by the way, if UNIX is the result of the smartest OS minds in the >field, how come it bites the big one? It has no standard GUI, and >it's disk performance is at least 5 times worse then even pathetic old >DOS... And HPFS runs rings around the BSD improved file system. I remember when I used to hit the fish in the boat with a big old rock. I felt sorry 'cause they were just flapping all over the place. I don't feel sorry this time. > Gordon Letwin > Microsoft >p.s.: re bill gates: - a few years ago, as a publicity stunt, Bill Gates >challenged a buncha other big name industry types - all programmers - to >a public programming contest. He won. Perhaps you should meet the man, >Ajay, before you sneer so publicly. What size tires can he run? -- Gregory R. Travis Indiana University, Bloomington IN 47405 greg@cica.cica.indiana.edu Center for Innovative Computer Applications Card-carrying member of the Usenet Civil Liberties Union