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From: jim@se-sd.SanDiego.NCR.COM (Jim Ruehlin, CFC User)
Newsgroups: comp.lang.c++,comp.windows.ms.programmer
Subject: Re: Opinions about using Zortech C++ for MS Windows
Message-ID: <4390@se-sd.SanDiego.NCR.COM>
Date: 8 Feb 91 17:37:55 GMT
References: <1991Feb07.142714.22163@stiatl.salestech.com>
Organization: NCR Corp., Systems Engineering - San Diego
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In <1991Feb07.142714.22163@stiatl.salestech.com> ges@stiatl.salestech.com (Gerald Sullivan) writes:


>I am looking for opinions regarding the use of Zortech C++
>for Microsoft Windows development. We will be using the
>Glockenspiel Commonvu 2 class library. This limits our
>choice of compilers to Glockenspiel (a cfront compiler)
>and Zortech. 

I don't know about Zortech, but I do know about Glockenspiel (I currently
use it and curse it).  I also use Commonvu and I have no complaints about
that.  I know you didn't ask about Glock, but I feel so strongly about it
that I wanted to warn off anyone looking to it.  It's big, it's a hog, 
it's slow, and you can't use it in PWB when running in windows.  I can't
even have my network installed while I'm doing development with it (I have
4 MB of memory and 2 autoexec.bat and config.sys files).

>Some particular concerns we have: 
>1. Robustness of compiler 
Glock has some very nasty bugs like not being able to create a standard
text window without bombing.
>2. Ease of linking with Microsoft C produced object files 
It does do this OK
>3. Quality of the debugger 
>4. Compatibility with CodeView 
>5. Technical support 
TS for CV I've found to be pretty good.  Glock is made by a different
company.

>Any other opinions or comments are welcome.  
DON'T USE GLOCKENSPIEL!!  I'VE USED IT FOR 6 MONTHS WITH COMMONVU AND IT SUCKS!

We've already ordered the new Turbo environment for Windows.  I make the
effort to do the conversion because I can no longer waste time trying to
make my product in Glock.

- Jim Ruehlin