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From: QQ11@LIVERPOOL.AC.UK (Alan Thew)
Newsgroups: comp.mail.mush,comp.windows.x
Subject: Re: X or Xview version of Mush
Message-ID: <91037.133433QQ11@LIVERPOOL.AC.UK>
Date: 6 Feb 91 13:34:33 GMT
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In article <1991Jan29.044604.14153@brolga.cc.uq.oz.au>, ant@brolga.cc.uq.oz.au
(Anthony Murdoch) says:
>
.....
>
>Hi guys,
>
>Well apparently there is an X version of mush.  It is called zipmail and is
>a commercial product.  Also, the copyright on mush dissallows converting it
>to use in X windows etc.  The word from Dan :
>
......
>->The new version is called "zipmail" currently (it's name is going to
>->change) and this is strictly a *commercial product*.  It is not free
>->software.  The advantage is that there is complete documentation (a
>->500 page O'Reilly book and a smaller "user's guide") and there is a
>->full support staff behind it.  We have done a Motif and Open Look version
>->and are sending out Beta shipments on Feb 1 -- full release on March 1.
>->
>->"Mush" is still owned strictly by me and I prohibit anyone from
>->modifying Mush to work under X windows or to make any modifications
>->whatsoever publically available.  Obviously, this is to prohibit
>->competition with my new business.  Mush has never been in the public
>->domain; it has always been owned by me with these restrictions (see
>->the README).  I still support mush in fact and am about to release
>->a new version of it (7.2.2).

Sorry if this issue has been flogged to death but I seem to have missed
it. While I understand that Dan has a business to run and his product
comes first, what are the likely 'support' implications for the version
that is currently available ?

I have to admit that although I prefer mush, the competition (i.e. elm)
looks to have a better/more secure future as regards versions that I
can get for nothing (note that I DID NOT say 'free' or 'PD').

No flames please...just some informed comment preferred.

Thanks.

Alan Thew  : University of Liverpool Computer Laboratory
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