Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!usc!snorkelwacker.mit.edu!bloom-beacon!eru!hagbard!sunic!dkuug!rcbal!cube!dino From: dino@cube.rci.dk (Hans Dinsen-Hansen) Newsgroups: sci.bio Subject: Re: Evolution & female orgasm Message-ID: <2487@cube.rci.dk> Date: 24 Jan 91 12:54:37 GMT References: <14868@milton.u.washington.edu> Organization: RC International, Copenhagen, Denmark Lines: 57 In <14868@milton.u.washington.edu> jespah@milton.u.washington.edu (Kathleen Hunt) writes: >From: throop@cs.utexas.edu (David Throop) >* Has women's sexual responsiveness changed since prehistoric times? >*Have our sexual practices? >* I think of cunnilingus and manual stimulation of one's partner as >*civilized acts. I find it hard to believe that stone age people >*practiced them -- at least, I've heard no reports of these practices >*among chimpanzees. >*... > >Just a few notes: female orgasm does occur in many other mammalian species. >... >Also, you might be interested to know that the bonobo ("pygmy chimpanzee", >_Pan paniscus_) does quite commonly do mutual masturbation, female-female >clitoral stimulation (known as "genital-genital rubbing" or "G-G rubbing") >and various other means of stimulating the clitoris. I haven't read >descriptions of cunnilingus in this species ... >go out of their way to enjoy sex, though. >Just some more things to consider. >Kathleen >jespah@milton.u.washington.edu Thanks for hearing a woman' opinion. May I, a male, add some more to this discussion. >From: throop@cs.utexas.edu (David Throop) I quote further: >* ... I don't know that anthropoligist have enquired >*about these practices (cunnilingus) among primitive cultures. >* Has women's sexual responsiveness changed since prehistoric times? >*Have our sexual practices? The anthropologist and explorer Knud Rasmussen, who spoke and wrote the Innuit (Eskimo) language, has collected many Innuit myths and sagas. Some can be found in his "collected works", others were - after his death - classified by his wife because of their immoral nature. However, in KR's "collected works" one can find a myth from North Canada. I do not have the reference by hand, but I quote from memory: - Some Great Hunter came to a settlement, where all or most adult males had been killed by some kind of beast. This Great Hunter killed the beast and thus saved the settlement. As a reward for his great deed the women of the settlement ordered him lie on his back, after which the women would stand in a line, and the Great Hunter was granted the favor of sniffing to their secret parts. (!) The way I understand the myth as re-told by KR, cunnilingus in "primitive cultures" is a favor granted by the woman to the man. In some, perhaps most, sub-cultures of modern civilization cunnilingus is regarded the other way around. The reason for that I could only guess about. It might be that most "primitive cultures" comprise cleanliness, whereas public baths and touching oneself down there has been fought by the churches for a long period in Western European civilization. Perhaps soap and various perfumes, as opposed to the primitive washing in plain water may also be guilty. / | My opinion! | / Hans Dinsen-Hansen (The local Dino-saur) | Probably | / RCI, Hovedvejen 9, Glostrup, DK-2600 Denmark | not shared | / (+45) 4297 5366 X 292 |by my company|