Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!jarthur!ucivax!gateway From: baranski@meridn.enet.dec.com (Jim Baranski) Newsgroups: soc.feminism Subject: Re: Woman/Man Space Message-ID: <9101141527.AA28831@easynet.crl.dec.com> Date: 14 Jan 91 15:48:06 GMT Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation Lines: 27 Approved: tittle@ics.uci.edu Nntp-Posting-Host: blanche.ics.uci.edu -Message-Text-Follows- In article <9101072052.AA04724@rutgers.edu>, jdravk@speech2.cs.cmu.edu (Jeanette Dravk) writes... The primary goals of these groups (like any therapy) is to get them to accept and like themselves again, and to understand that all people who are are *not* abusive or "out ot get them"." This reasoning does not extend to all womens-only groups. Not all womens-only groups are of this type, what about womens-only groups which are not of this type? And I don't think all the groups that are men-only are power hungery organizations bent on oppressing women either... but I still don't support them. "So let's try your idea. Why not have crisis groups for white people who suffer from being the instigators of racism? How do you propose to overcome their built up defenses and the habits/nurturing of a lifetime by having blacks/Jews whatever in the group?" As sarcasitic as your idea is, I think that we do need to do just that, and at some point at least, some of the stereotyped group need to be included to 'practice on', and to show the fearfull ones that not all of the stereotyped group are bad. Jim. hey! I'm being stereotyped!