Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!bcm!dimacs.rutgers.edu!aramis.rutgers.edu!athos.rutgers.edu!christian From: ok@goanna.cs.rmit.oz.au (Richard A. O'Keefe) Newsgroups: soc.religion.christian Subject: A question about penance Message-ID: Date: 8 Feb 91 07:42:06 GMT Sender: hedrick@athos.rutgers.edu Organization: Comp Sci, RMIT, Melbourne, Australia Lines: 82 Approved: christian@aramis.rutgers.edu Before I ask my question, I'd better issue a disclaimer: This is not an attack on the Catholic Church nor on Opus Dei nor on the founder of Opus Dei. This really is a genuine question. I recently picked up a copy of "The Secret World of Opus Dei", Michael Walsh, Grafton Books 1989 ISBN 0-586-20734-1. On p36, he writes "Despite constant washing, [the bathroom's] walls were stained with blood from the flagellations Escriva inflicted upon himself. He used a 'discipline', a kind of cat-o'-nine-tails, to which he had attached bits of metal and pieces of razor blades." It is also stated that he wore a "cilice" (apparently a spiked chain or "bracelet") On pp111-112, we read "Penitential practices fall under paragraph 260 of the 1950 Constitution [of Opus Dei]: The pious custom of chastising the body and reducing it to servitude by wearing a small cilice for at least two hours a day, by taking the discipline at least one a week, and by sleeping on the groundf, will be faithfully maintained, taking into account only a person's health. The 'instruments of mortification' are given to members in little brown sacks. One former member alleged they had been given to children only fifteen years of age. The same young man was told that the amount of mortification he undertook could be increased with the approval of his spiritual director. He was also told how Escriva's blood spattered the walls of the bathroom from the ferocity with which he beat himself. A report in the Liverpool Catholic newspaper, the "Catholic Pictorial", for 29 November 1981 described the induction of young girls into the organisation. They were introduced gradually to the "mortifications" practised by Opus Dei members. They were encouraged to kiss the floor upong rising instantly to the morning door knock.' They had 'cold showers and long periods of silence'. They wore the 'cilis' (sic --MW) -- a spiked chain -- around the thigh for a two-hour period each day (not on Sundays and feast days) `and applied a rope whip to their buttocks once a week'. These practices still exist within Opus." To prevent misunderstanding: I appreciate that other Catholic orders have mostly dropped such practices, I also appreciate that Opus Dei are being faithful to tradition, and I'm not alleging perversion or bad faith of anyone at all. I have read in history books that the practices of flagellation and so on came into the Church as a response to the appalling plagues that repeatedly devastated Europe. What puzzles me is this: In the Torah the prohibition against "gashing" yourself is repeated three times. Evidently it was a mourning practice, but penance is a kind of mourning, no? In one of the places in the Torah the prohibition was applied to "priests", but Monsignor Josemaria Escriva de Balaguer y Albas was a priest, and so have been many other flagellants. Now, I don't want to argue that the Church is bound by all the ordinances of the Torah. (I'm clean-shaven, and have no desire to be circumcised.) But the prohibition of self-mutilation seems to me as though "defacing the image of God" might not be a good thing, and the fact that the prohibition is repeated three times suggests that it might be rather significant. At the very least, I would be *very* wary of accepting a practice that *seems* to be prohibited. Again, I think I can appreciate why perfectly sane people might _want_ to do it. There are a couple of things I've done in the past which are so loathesomely *petty* that if beating myself till I bled could make me feel cleansed from the shame of being the kind of creature that does things like that I'd be _eager_ to do it. But it's _Jesus'_ blood I rely on, not my own, and forgiveness is real even if I can still remember what needed forgiving. Finally, the questions: -- would some of the Catholics on the net care to comment on such penance? -- why doesn't the prohibition against gashing yourself apply to a priest beating himself with bits of razor blades? -- do other Orders still do this sort of thing? -- did Vatican II have anything to say about it? -- The Marxists have merely _interpreted_ Marxism in various ways; the point, however, is to _change_ it. -- R. Hochhuth.