Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!sdd.hp.com!wuarchive!bcm!dimacs.rutgers.edu!aramis.rutgers.edu!athos.rutgers.edu!christian From: abvax!iccgcc.DNET!benning@uunet.uu.net Newsgroups: soc.religion.christian Subject: Re: Will 'All of Israel' be Saved? Message-ID: Date: 8 Feb 91 07:54:12 GMT Sender: hedrick@athos.rutgers.edu Lines: 62 Approved: christian@aramis.rutgers.edu In article , YZKCU@cunyvm.bitnet (Yaakov Kayman) writes: > In article , > abvax!iccgcc.DNET!benning@uunet.uu.net says: >> >>In article , >>ta00est@unccvax.uncc.edu (elizabeth s tallant) writes: >>> >> If I may comment. Today, the number of Jewish men and women who are >>re-examining the validity of the Messiahship of J____ is very large. > > > Not as many as you would hope! More Jews today are returning to the > Judaic faith of their fathers. I'll leave you to make whatever unknow- > ing pronouncements you wish about the Jews' Torah/Tanakh, which was given > only to them, as I no longer care to engage in teaching any non-Jew MY > Torah for purposes inimical to my religion. The Jewish position is that > the Torah/Tanakh make no mention or allusion whatsoever to J____, even > though they do discuss Messiah extensively. NO practicing Jew takes > the various claims about J____'s status (as a god, as a prophet, as a > rabbi, or as a messiah) seriously. > >>B. Benning > > Yaakov K. > -------- > Yaakov Without turning this into a spitting contest, I will only enter one mans comment. The man is Ari Ben Israel. He was a child in one of the death camps in Germany. He saw both his parents die there. For most of his life he hated Germans and Christians because of this episode in his life. The man is in his sixties but he looks like he has been through two lives. The pain of his life in the death camp has taken its toll. This man, who hated Germans and Christians, was one day confronted by a Christian woman. She told him Jesus was his Messiah. He spit at her. Told her Jesus was responsible for the death of his family. She bowed down to Ari and said he could take his anger out on her, but Jesus was still his Messiah. After a time, he began to wonder about this womans attitude and her words. So he purchaced a New Testament. After reading it he looked up and said Lord, if these things are true and you are the Messiah, let me know. I thought the New Testament was an anti-Jewish book but I have found it to be very Jewish and now I wonder how much else I thought was right, could be lies. Show me Lord!! It wasn't long before he received his answer. This man who once hated Germans and Christians (Jewish and Gentile) now has a ministry bringing healing between these two countries. Ari had a position in the Israeli government to be a liaison between the two countries (I don't know if he still holds the post). THE MAN IS COMPLETELY CHANGED!!! His message? It is plain and simple. To his beloved brothers and sisters, he says: "Jesus is the Messiah, whether you accept this or not. He is the Messiah of Israel and the whole world." Sincerely, B. Benning