Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!sdd.hp.com!wuarchive!rex!ukma!seismo!dimacs.rutgers.edu!aramis.rutgers.edu!athos.rutgers.edu!christian From: kbowman@eng.auburn.edu (Kevin Bowman) Newsgroups: soc.religion.christian Subject: Re: Don't mean to be rude, but....... Message-ID: Date: 8 Feb 91 09:24:56 GMT Sender: hedrick@athos.rutgers.edu Organization: Auburn University Engineering Lines: 28 Approved: christian@aramis.rutgers.edu In article pluto@maths.tcd.ie (Caroline Tisdall) writes: > > > Terribly sorry, I don't mean to be rude or anything, but you're > all a pack of raving idiots! What grown man in his right mind would > believe in all this religion nonsense? If only you could look objectivly > at your beliefs for once, you'd realise that you're all superstitous > idiots....... Its understandable that you might find questions of "works and faith" to be quite ridiculous given your obvious world-view bias. I would reply to your polemic that if we are not in our "right mind" then men such as James Clerk Maxwell, Louis Pasteur, Sir Isaac Newton as well many other great thinkers are equally "out of their right mind". I would ask as well on what "objective" grounds would you call religion, specifically christianity, superstitious? I would point out that objectivity is not all that it may originally seem, i.e. it rests on many a priori assumptions. Since you find Chrisitianity intellectually untenable, on what *specific* grounds do you find it so and what would you replace it with? I hope you will be patient with us as we'll be patient with you. Kevin Bowman (kbowman@eng.auburn.edu) Two Foundational Facts of Human Enlightenment: 1: There is a God 2: You are not Him