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From: edwin@cs.ruu.nl (Edwin Kremer)
Newsgroups: comp.mail.elm
Subject: Re: Instructions for getting patches for those w/out ftp access
Keywords: ftp, bitftp, mail-server
Message-ID: <4820@ruuinf.cs.ruu.nl>
Date: 12 Feb 91 08:36:03 GMT
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In <388@dprmpt.UUCP> larry@dprmpt.UUCP (Larry) writes:

   | I have tried to retrieve the ELM patches for version 2.3 (Patches 1-11)
   | from the archive site without success.
   | 
   | Since I don't seem to be the only one who is having difficulty getting
   | the patches for Elm 2.3, could someone PLEASE post patches 1 thru 11?

You might want to try our mail-server. People in Europe will most probably
prefer FTPing with our archive-site instead of crossing the Atlantic. Details
on FTP and the Mail-Server below...


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
**> This is my ``standard-answer'' to requests for free software that I
**> think our archive-service can fulfil. Usually, I mail this message
**> directly to the person who queried, but since people keep on asking,
**> I've decided to post this message as a follow-up on these kind of
**> queries in the relevant newsgroup(s) every once a month or so...


  We, Computer Science department, Utrecht University, are running an
anonymous FTP server on one of our systems. I should say that we're
NOT archiving all of "comp.sources.*". Instead, we're putting a lot
of effort in trying to keep the archive up-to-date.

 Here are the details on anonymous FTP:
 ======================================

	Site:		archive.cs.ruu.nl  [131.211.80.5]
	Login:		"anonymous" or "ftp"
	Password:	your email address (you@your_domain)
	Usage:		see the ftp(1) manual on your system
	Hot topics:	TeX stuff, Atari-ST software, Elm 2.3, NN 6.4,
			UNIX software, sundry documentation, ...
	Important:	to get a description of what exactly is in the
			archive get the file "pub/ls-lR.Z". Also, in each
			sub-directory there is a file named "INDEX" that
			describes the software in that directory (what
			version, what else you need, who wrote it, etc.).


  Although anonymous FTP is our main goal, we're also running a mail server,
because we *know* how you feel when there's plenty of beautiful software
around that you can't reach. We've been in that situation for a long long
time... All we ask from you is that you at least *try* to keep very big
requests out of the prime-time hours (nights and weekends are fine).

 Okay, now for how to access our mail server:
 ============================================

	1) The mail server can be reached at the address

			mail-server@cs.ruu.nl

	   or the old-fashioned path alternative

			...!uunet!mcsun!hp4nl!ruuinf!mail-server

	2) The mail server understands a couple of commands, all commands
	   must be in the message body. The first thing you might want to
	   do is ask it for help:

			send HELP
	
	3) A complete "ls-lR" listing of the archive is kept in the
	   top-level directory, it will be updated every night. To get
	   it, say:

			send ls-lR.Z
	
	   Note that compressed files will be sent UUEncoded by default; we
	   use the UUE that was posted to the net some time ago.
	   In every subdirectory you'll find a "INDEX" file, describing the
	   contents of that directory. So, e.g. to find out what's in the
	   ELM-2.3 directory, say:

			send ELM-2.3/INDEX
	
	4) Last, assume you want to get the UUE/UUD package mentioned above:

			send UNIX/uudecode.shar
	
	5) If your mailer appends your fancy signature file, you might want
	   to mark the end of the mail-server commands-list by putting an

			end

	   command above the signature file. This will prevent "unknown
	   command" messages from the mail-server program.


  That's all for now. If you encounter problems using the FTP service
and/or the mail-server, feel free to drop me a line (by e-mail, please).


		thanks for your time,
						--[ Edwin ]--
--
Edwin Kremer (SysAdm), Dept. of Computer Science, Utrecht University
Padualaan 14,   P.O. Box 80.089,  3508 TB  Utrecht,  The Netherlands
Telephone: +31-30-534104  | UUCP: ...!uunet!mcsun!hp4nl!ruuinf!edwin
Telefax  : +31-30-513791  | Email: edwin@cs.ruu.nl    [131.211.80.5]