Xref: utzoo comp.sys.amiga.advocacy:573 comp.sys.atari.st:34929 Path: utzoo!mnetor!tmsoft!torsqnt!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!swrinde!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!caen!b-tech!ais.org!jph From: jph@ais.org (Joseph Hillenburg) Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,comp.sys.atari.st Subject: Re: advice please - Atari-ST or Amiga Summary: Gee, you guys whine too much! Keywords: clueless st users Message-ID: Date: 11 Feb 91 05:21:43 GMT References: <1991Feb9.213904.782@mintaka.lcs.mit.edu> <1991Feb10.023415.8641@santra.uucp> Sender: jph@ais.org Organization: UMCC, Ann Arbor, MI Lines: 87 In article jhenders@jonh.wimsey.bc.ca writes: >In <1991Feb10.073020.9858@mintaka.lcs.mit.edu>, Ray Cromwell writes: >>In article <1991Feb10.023415.8641@santra.uucp> s37837k@saha.hut.fi (Jari Lehto) writes: >>>In article <1991Feb9.213904.782@mintaka.lcs.mit.edu> rjc@churchy.ai.mit.edu (Ray Cromwell) writes: >>> [...] >>>> Atari under Unix? What the hell is this? You mean Minix? or do you >>>>mean an emulated Atari running on a Workstation? >> >> This must be a 'hacked' up port. I'm not aware of an official >>Atari AT&T Unix port yet. (Unix has to be licensed, it costs lots of $$$ >>for the source). Besides, the Amiga can do everything you mentioned above. >>(i've downloaded and extracted simulatenously, vied GIF pics, formatted >>disks, etc) > > Again you show a lack of any knowledge about Unix on the TT. Just >as Amiga Unix was out in Universities this fall in beta test, so now >Atari Unix is out in Europe under beta. This is a real SVR4 port done >by a company contracted to Atari to do the port. It will be (or is) >running X-Desktop and who knows when we'll see it in North America. Heehee...Atari couldn't do the port themselves? Atari CAN'T do well in North America. They've shot their reputation all to hell here. And they're loosing it in Europe. Atari is the ONLY company that I know of that fucked upward compatability up because they used an illegal instruction. (With the exception of Tandy.) [...] >>>I don't get it. Is multitasking some kind of religion to you? You don't >>>propably even buy a pen, unless it multitasks... >>>I have often found multitasking (specially in Unix) more confusing than useful. Well, for me, and most Amiga users (if not all) multitasking blends right in. I couldn't stand a single-tasking machine, and thats one of the MANY reasons why I won't be caught dead owning a PC or Mac. >>>Human beings can not concentrate to more than one task at a time. >>>Buy If I want to multitask, I'll do it. I have a true multitasking OS for >>>my ST. One of my Amiga-using friens said that it is better than Amiga's. >>>Again something made in Germany. Hope those never get there, because there >>>are so many people like you, who are too biassed to understand anything >>>strange and new. Yes, but it costs. We get it FREE, and it works. WHERE it's made is no concern, unless you refer to the Soviet Union, where the public technological level is near zilch. [...] >>>> Seriously. The Atari's niche is MIDI. You don't need fast CPUs for >>>>MIDI(atleast not above 16mhz). The Amiga's niche is multitasking >>>>and video which does demand faster CPUs. (real time video, compression, >>>>ray tracing). To actually display the video/sound doesn't require a fast CPU. Just lots and lots of RAM. The rendering, etc requires the RAM. >>>> I have nothing personal against STs. If I need MIDI I'd buy one. But >>>>personally, I am hooked on multitasking and can't do without it. Also >>>>since I work with Unix, the fact that AmigaDOS is simular to Unix >>>>makes it attractive. >>> >>>Good enough MIDI-software needs fast CPUs. I am about to go for 33MHz. >>>You are the first Amiga-user that is proven to be a multitasking-maniac. >>>I know about 60 Amiga-users, 10 of them are my good friends... >>>They either have nothing agaist ST, some of them even use one frequently. >>>My opinion is that Amiga is a master of graphics and soud, but it is not >>>very handy in word-processing, DTP or things like that. OPINION! Really? Neither the ST or Amiga is word processing machines, DTP, maybe but The ST's best DTP program is also out for the Amiga. [...] >>>BTW, PCs are the most unuserfriendly machines I have seen. I think Mac is >>>something special. But if you really want something cool, get NeXT or >>>Sun SPARCstation. Those are far more superior than any of these Atari- and >>>Commodore-toys discussed here... ***OPINION AGAIN!!!*** When the '040's are available in mass quantities, an Amiga will eat a NeXT or SPARCstation I for lunch. [Lots of boring .sigs deleted] -- // Joseph Hillenburg, Secretary, Bloomington Amiga Users Group \X/ joseph@valnet.UUCP jph@irie.ais.org jph@ai.mit.edu "Only Apple could slow down a 68030 chip" --Computer Shopper