Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!sdd.hp.com!spool.mu.edu!uwm.edu!bionet!agate!usenet.ins.cwru.edu!ncoast!davewt From: davewt@NCoast.ORG (David Wright) Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy Subject: Re: A3000UX at UniForum? Message-ID: <1991Feb10.021744.6463@NCoast.ORG> Date: 10 Feb 91 02:17:44 GMT References: <1991Feb6.005537.7551@Neon.Stanford.EDU> <1991Feb6.141218.11094@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu> <1991Feb6.193608.17592@Neon.Stanford.EDU> Organization: North Coast Public Access Un*x (ncoast) Lines: 33 In article <1991Feb6.193608.17592@Neon.Stanford.EDU> torrie@cs.stanford.edu (The Ghost Who Walks) writes: > Since when has Byte started quoting educational prices? Are you forgetfull or just stupid? (I think the latter). If you actually READ the article (which I doubt), it clear stated that the price WAS the educational price, and that this was a PREVIEW, *not* a REVIEW. Since up until recently the only way you could get a 3000UX was to be either a student or a certified developer (who get better prices), the "about $4000" was correct and quite accurate. In fact, back when they reviewed it the machine came with slightly less memory for that same price then it does now. > At what cost? Certainly less than the cost of upgrading (oops you can't do that) the mono NeXT Station to color. After all, even ignoring the rediculous comparison of an '030 machine to an '040 machine, just which machine are you saying beats the 3000UX's value? Certainly not the color system, and I don't think ANY mono system that can't be upgraded compares to a color system that gives you the choice of three basic video displays (normal Amiga for 700+x500+ (or 1000x800/960, if you only want 4 colors), the 1024x1024 mono monitor, or the 1024x1024x256 color (out of 16m) TARGA display standard on many other computer systems), without losing your investment in hardware. Just what are you going to do with a mono NeXT Station if you later find out you need color? The 3000UX doesn't seem expensive now, does it. I find it funny that not one person I know who I would consider even slightly above normal in computer literacy is interested in the NeXT, and most of the people that I know who were considering it changed their minds when they found out about the upgrade prices, non-standard Unix, slow display speed, using the host CPU to do the job of the printer, lack of expandability, and lack of total machines sold. I mean come on, there are only just over 15,000 NeXTs (of all models) in the US. What kind of market is that? Dave