Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!usc!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!think.com!mintaka!geech.ai.mit.edu!rjc From: rjc@geech.ai.mit.edu (Ray Cromwell) Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy Subject: Re: How to beat a NeXT Keywords: nexts, suck, unexpandible, slow Message-ID: <1991Feb13.044829.11371@mintaka.lcs.mit.edu> Date: 13 Feb 91 04:48:29 GMT References: <1991Feb11.023952.19951@NCoast.ORG> <1991Feb12.043247.6171@mintaka.lcs.mit.edu> <1991Feb12.210216.19479@sugar.hackercorp.com> Sender: daemon@mintaka.lcs.mit.edu (Lucifer Maleficius) Organization: None Lines: 31 In article <1991Feb12.210216.19479@sugar.hackercorp.com> peter@sugar.hackercorp.com (Peter da Silva) writes: >I'm sorry, but the standard Amiga color monitor is not adequate for X. Add a >multisync monitor and ECS to the cost of your 500. A2024. >(100 MB hard drive, plus 68040, in an Amiga 500 expansion card? For $1500? > In your dreams maybe...) How much do you think the 68040 will cost in bulk? $1000 a chip? If 68040s cost 1k a chip, this means NeXT makes almost no profit on the slab. ($1000 68040, $800 for 8mb of ram, $600 Quantum, $300 Ethernet?, + the cost of the motherboard, monitor, VLSI chips) I have no idea what NeXT price NeXT is buying 040's for, but if you look the the GVP A3001 ($2800), remove the cost of the 030/882, slap in a 040, and a $300 ethernet, plus a $400 A500 motherboard, you could compete with the NeXT. Remember, I'm assuming that Commodore could purchase the 040's for the same price/priveleges NeXT gets, and that the A500 slab woul be highly integrated to all this hardware like the A3000 is. Your answer to every NeXt gripe seems to be 'Well if the NeXT can't do this, you may as well buy a RISC box.' The NeXT slab (smallest version) will never succeed as a 'personal' workstation. (too me, it looks like an overpriced terminal that needs a lab environment to get any real work done.) >-- >Peter da Silva. `-_-' >.