Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!swrinde!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!magnus.ircc.ohio-state.edu!mitroo From: mitroo@magnus.ircc.ohio-state.edu (Varun Mitroo) Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy Subject: Re: A3000UX - Born to run UNIX SVR4 Message-ID: <1991Feb13.234350.23904@magnus.ircc.ohio-state.edu> Date: 13 Feb 91 23:43:50 GMT References: <1991Feb8.134256.4811@cc.helsinki.fi> <1991Feb13.043800.29815@NCoast.ORG> Sender: news@magnus.ircc.ohio-state.edu Organization: The Ohio State University Lines: 37 Nntp-Posting-Host: left.magnus.ircc.ohio-state.edu In article <1991Feb13.043800.29815@NCoast.ORG> davewt@NCoast.ORG (David Wright) writes: >In article <1991Feb8.134256.4811@cc.helsinki.fi> jalkio@cc.helsinki.fi writes: >>There is no point in comparing these two machines since 030 NeXT's are >>out of production and the new NeXTs (040) are much cheaper than the old >>ones. > Hogwash. That's like saying "Comparing a Ford Escort to a >Volkwagen Beetle is not fair because the Beetle is out of production" >(being an American and overlooking that they are still available outside the >US). What is being compared are two machines that it is possible to own, >and for which there are known speeds and benchmarks. Wrong. The old models are discontinued. If you insist on comparing the two computers, then you must look again at the costs. Recently, Businessland has been selling out its inventory of old cubes. You can get an '030 cube for... $2395!! with 8 megs of RAM and 256 MB optical drive. There is a third party drive available for about $1400 that is 700 MB. So for about $3800 you can get a cube with 8 megs RAM, ethernet, DSP, 700 MB hard drive, megapixel display, 256 MB optical drive. This compares *quite* favorably with the "about $4000" for a low-end A3000UX. Note that this price is not educational. >>Comparing Amiga 3000UX to old 030 NeXTs for "advertising" purposes is >>simply misleading. > Not at all. The MAJORITY (and will be for some time) NeXT machine >HAVE an '030. You really think ALL NeXT owners are going to shell out the >cash to: > a) Buy an entirely new, unexpandable machine > b) Pay the redicoulus upgrade price for a CPU board alone Wrong again. The upgrade to the '040 is not for "a CPU board alone". It is an entire motherboard exchange. The serial ports are new, the DMA channels are updated, the SCSI interface is new. The only thing you keep from the old motherboard is the memory, which you swap into the new board. The cost of the upgrade is a very reasonable $930 (educational); list price is about $1500. Varun Mitroo mitroo@magnus.ircc.ohio-state.edu