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From: @utrcgw.utc.com:mark@ardnt1 (mark)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.introduction
Subject: Re: FTP??
Message-ID: <44544@nigel.ee.udel.edu>
Date: 13 Feb 91 14:37:07 GMT
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on 12 Feb 91 16:45:16 GMT,
Mike Cerrato <@utrcgw.utc.com:sirotto@oak.circa.ufl.EDU> said:

    >> In article <8355@ucdavis.ucdavis.edu>, 
    >> zerkle@iris.ucdavis.edu (Dan Zerkle) writes:

        > At this point, you will be asked for a user name.  You should type
        > "anonymous".  When you get asked for a password, you should type your
        > user name.  This makes sense.  You will then be logged on.

    >> I use FTP on VMS and have found that you have to type 
    >> USER "<username>".  Since VMS converts everything to uppercase, 
    >> the username must be in quotes if it contains any lowercase 
    >> letters.  For example to log on to ab20.larc.nasa.gov:

    >> USER "anonymous"

This is not necessarily true.  We have the Wollongong WIN/TCP package
(I don't remember the version #) on our VMS (V4.6) system at work.  

I have used FTP the following ways:

    from VMS to Unix
    from VMS to VMS    (just as a test, I normally use Decnet to transfer files)
    from Unix to VMS
    from Unix to Unix

and have never had to worry about the case of the username or filename.

        > 
        > This sort of login is much more restricted than the normal login.
        > You can run programs as usual.  There are a few things you can do:
        > 
        > 2. Change directories on the remote machine.  This is usually "cd" or
        >    "chdir".

    >> Directory names containing lowercase letters or "/" must be enclosed 
    >> in quotes to keep them from being converted to uppercase.


The only that I've had to watch for is that VMS doesn't like
filenames with more than one period in them.  You can "get" a file
that has more than one period and VMS will accept it.  It's just
that VMS will generate a "strange" name for that file.

It is generally best to give a name to VMS file when entering the
get command.  For example:

   get stuff.1.0.tar.Z  stuff-1-0-tar.z
       ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
       remote filename  local filename

        > 3. Get a file from the remote machine.  This is usually done with
        >    "get" or "mget".  Note that if you are transferring a file that
        >    is not plain text, you should type the command "binary" before
        >    doing this.  "Get" will copy the file from the remote machine to
        >    the current directory on your machine.

    >> Filenames containing lowercase letters or "/" must be enclosed in
    >> quotes.  The equivalent for the "binary" command is SET TYPE IMAGE.

Our version doesn't recognize SET TYPE IMAGE it uses the "binary"
command.

        >            Dan Zerkle  zerkle@iris.eecs.ucdavis.edu  (916) 754-0240
        >            Amiga...  Because life is too short for boring computers.

    >> FTP has a pretty comprehensive help file.  Just type HELP at 
    >> the FTP> prompt.  If you are having problems, check the Hints   
    >> topic (if there is one) under the command you are trying to use.  
    >> I hope this is helpful . . .

Yes, if all else fails, try HELP.  See the sample session below.

    >>            ___  __
    >> |\   |\   |    /  \  SirOtto--Gallant Knight of a rather large, squarish
    >> | \  | \  |   /	    table someplace in the West Panhandle of Florida.
    >> |  \ |  \ |--<
    >> |   \|   \|___\____/ Michael E. Cerrato -- University of Florida

    >> Internet: sirotto%maple.decnet@pine.circa.ufl.edu
    >> UUCP:	  ...!uunet!uflorida!pine.circa.ufl.edu!sirotto%maple.decnet


I realize that there are several TCP/IP packages for VMS, and your's
may have the limitations that you described, but there are other versions
that do not have the same limitations.

I also realize that when we finally upgrade from VMS V4.6 and upgrade
our TCP/IP package accordingly, that I may also start enjoying some
of these "features".

Sample session that illustrates some of the above follows:


$ ftp ardnt1
 Connection Opened
 Using 8-bit bytes.
<ardnt1 FTP server (Version 4.160 Tue Nov 15 13:05:50 PST 1988) ready.
atsn FTP User Process (Version 3.00)
*
*
*user mark
<Password required for mark.
Password:
<User mark logged in.
*
*
*help
Commands:
abort           Terminate current operation
ascii           Set file transfer mode to ascii
bget            Retrieve a file in binary mode
bput            Send a file in binary mode
bell            Ring bell when file transfer completes
binary          Set file transfer mode to binary
bye             Close the connection and exit
case            Toggle mapping of local filenames to lower case
cd              Change current working directory on remote host
commandfile     Execute ftp commands from local file
delete          Delete a file on remote host
directory       Display contents of a directory in long form
disconnect      Close the connection
file            Set file transfer structure to FILE
get             Retrieve a file from remote host
hash            Print # for each packet sent or received
help            Display help messages for all ftp commands
interactive     Prompt with each filename for mget, mput and mdelete commands
lcd             Change current working directory on local host
login           Log into the remote system
ls              Display contents of a directory in short form

--hit return for next page--
mdelete         Delete a group of files from the remote host
mget            Retrieve a group of files from the remote host
mkdir           Make a directory on the remote host
mput            Transfer a group of local files to the remote host
nobell          Do not ring bell when file transfer completes
nohash          Do not print # for each packet sent or received
nointeractive   Turn prompting off for mget, mput and mdelete commands
open            Open a connection to a remote host
put             Transfer a file from local host to the remote host
pwd             Print remote host's current working directory
quiet           Do not display transfer statistics
quote           Send the specified string to the remote ftp server
record          Set file transfer structure to RECORD
remotehelp      Display list of FTP commands implemented by the server
rename          Rename a file on the remote host
rget            Retrieve a file with record structure from the remote host
rput            Transfer a file with record structure to the remote host
stat            Display contents of a directory in short form
show            Show current status
structure       Set file transfer structure
tenex           Set file transfer mode to tenex

--hit return for next page--
verbose         Display server replies and transfer statistics

Aliases:
cwd       => cd
end       => bye
list      => directory
mrm       => mdelete
mv        => rename
nlist     => ls
quit      => bye
retrieve  => get
rm        => delete
store     => put
username  => login
?         => help
exit      => bye
close     => disconnect
*
*
*cd src/X/xdesk
<CWD command successful.
*
*
*dir
<PORT command successful.
<Opening data connection for /bin/ls (ascii mode) (0 bytes).
<Transfer complete.
total 118
-rw-rw-r--   1 aero         137 Oct 31 14:00 Imakefile
-rw-rw-r--   1 aero         154 Oct 31 14:12 Makefile
-rw-rw-r--   1 aero         796 Oct 31 14:00 README.Z
-rw-rw-r--   1 aero          80 Oct 31 14:00 cfg.examp.a
-rw-rw-r--   1 aero         268 Oct 31 14:00 cfg.examp.b
drwxrwxr-x   2 aero         352 Feb  8 09:01 icons
-rw-rw-r--   1 aero          21 Oct 31 14:00 patchlevel.h
-rw-rw-r--   1 aero        1964 Oct 31 14:00 xdesk.1.Z
-rw-rw-r--   1 aero       23005 Oct 31 11:46 xdesk.Z
-rw-rw-r--   1 aero        6256 Oct 31 14:00 xdesk.c.Z
-rw-rw-r--   1 aero         134 Oct 31 14:00 xdesk.h.Z
-rw-rw-r--   1 aero       22055 Oct 31 14:00 xdesk.shar.Z
672 bytes in 1 seconds--5376 bps
*
*
*set type image
Unknown Command
*
*
*binary
<Type set to I.
*
*
*get xdesk.c.Z
<PORT command successful.
<Opening data connection for xdesk.c.Z (ascii mode) (6256 bytes).
<Transfer complete.
6256 bytes in 1 seconds--50048 bps
*
*
*get xdesk.c.Z xdesk-c.Z
<PORT command successful.
<Opening data connection for xdesk.c.Z (ascii mode) (6256 bytes).
<Transfer complete.
3930 bytes in 1 seconds--31440 bps
*
*bye
exit
<Goodbye.

$ dir/date/size xdesk*

Directory $DISK2:[STUCKY]

XDESK-C.Z;1           10  13-FEB-1991 09:18     
XDESK.C$5NZ;2         13  13-FEB-1991 09:18  <<< result of "get xdesk.c.Z"

Total of 2 files, 23 blocks.