Path: utzoo!mnetor!tmsoft!torsqnt!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!usc!samsung!munnari.oz.au!bruce!merlin!ianh From: ianh@bhpmrl.oz.au (Ian Hoyle) Newsgroups: comp.sys.apollo Subject: Re: Elm mail tools Keywords: Elm, where?, simple on Apollo? Message-ID: Date: 13 Feb 91 03:01:21 GMT References: <1067@eba.eb.ele.tue.nl> <4fa27167.1bc5b@pisa.ifs.umich.edu> <1991Feb8.110705@ap.co.umist.ac.uk> Sender: usenet@bhpmrl.oz.au (USEnet nntp account) Organization: BHP Research - Melbourne Laboratories, AUSTRALIA Lines: 44 jf@ap.co.umist.ac.uk (John Forrest) writes: >In article <4fa27167.1bc5b@pisa.ifs.umich.edu>, rees@pisa.ifs.umich.edu (Jim Rees) writes: >|> In article , ianh@bhpmrl.oz.au (Ian Hoyle) writes: >|> >|> BTW, for those people who may remember a posting of mine several months back >|> bemoaning the fact that HP *still* ships a brain-dead version of sendmail, >|> check out Neil Rickert's version of sendmail 5.65 with the IDA enhancements >|> available from uxc.cso.uiuc.edu in pub/sendmail-5.65+IDA-1.4.2.tar.Z >|> >|> I'm still using 5.61. I can think of two problems you might have with >|> sendmail. One is getting the load average (getla() in conf.c). The other >|> is a subtle problem you may not realize you have. Sendmail opens the alias >|> db for r/w. This will fail if you have two sendmails both trying to run at >|> the same time on different nodes. You can get a sendmail patched for both >|> these problems by ftp from maths.su.oz.au (last I checked). >The getload function on this version has been adapted from the xload source - >not the previous sendmail version - and is thus far more reliable (give or >take the problems you occationally see with xload). As far as the alias file >is concerned, I don't think this is quite the same issue now. You have the >choice of either having to explicitly make an alias database with each change >(the standard practice) or having a directory for each machine (what we do). Yep, the load average changes as mentioned by John seem to work fine on Apollos. As far as the alias database problem goes, the patches from maths.su.oz.au (by Jim Richardson of "netpower" fame :-) have been incorporated into the sendmail 5.65 sources. [ NB all except for the change in deliver.c ]. 5.65+IDA seems to be working well for me. That should be qualified with the statement that we are a smallish site in terms of SMTP deliveries/sendmail usage though. ian -- Ian Hoyle /\/\ Image Processing & Data Analysis Group / / /\ BHP Research - Melbourne Laboratories / / / \ 245 Wellington Rd, Mulgrave, 3170 / / / /\ \ AUSTRALIA \ \/ / / / \ / / / Phone : +61-3-560-7066 \/\/\/ FAX : +61-3-561-6709 E-mail : ianh@bhpmrl.oz.au