Path: utzoo!mnetor!tmsoft!torsqnt!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!swrinde!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!rpi!crdgw1!sixhub!davidsen From: davidsen@sixhub.UUCP (Wm E. Davidsen Jr) Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware Subject: Re: EISA vs ISA Keywords: EISA, ISA, AT cards, etc. Message-ID: <3118@sixhub.UUCP> Date: 11 Feb 91 04:18:42 GMT References: <89696@unix.cis.pitt.edu> Reply-To: davidsen@sixhub.UUCP (bill davidsen) Organization: *IX Public Access UNIX, Schenectady NY Lines: 53 In article <89696@unix.cis.pitt.edu> fmgst@unix.cis.pitt.edu (Filip Gieszczykiewicz) writes: | 1) Cyrix and ITT claim that their 387-clones are "up to 80%" | faster then the Intel 80387. Is that true of the 486 also? | (ie. is the 387 on-board of the 486 200% SLOWER than a clone) They are using the old 387-20 as the basis for that. The 20 and 25 has an old mask with slow microcode. The new 387-25's, all 387-33's, and the 486 all have the fast microcode. Cyrix is a hell of a lot faster in 387SX, and cheaper, and lower power, but I don't think you will see much difference in speed from the new 387's. Just be sure you have one of the new ones, and not one made three months ago. | 2) I have heard that I can take an AT card (16-bit) and plug it | into the EISA buss. True? If so, will it slow down the other | EISA cards? (Like plugging in a MDA into a 16-bit-VGA system) I have seen 800KB sustained SCSI disk transfer while running a modem on an 8 bit serial card. I think you you can believe that one. | 3) Are there any EISA VGA cards out there? (Like an EISA | version of the ProDesigner II, or others) If so, are they faster? I'm told there are, but they are not common yet, and I would rather have one I know is compatible. Actually, I would like inexpensive, too. | 4) Is there an EISA IDE hard disk controller? I have some | IDE drives and I want to use them in my new system. Yes? | Also, if I have to get a new drive, should I stick with SCSI-2 | or ESDI? (I heard that SCSI-s sucks) Someone makes one, Ultrastor, I think. While they are fast, cheap, and reliable controllers, the firmware has been a bit odd. Ultrastrange, actually. If you need the power there are several companies making the boards. | 5) How would I, say, add a tape backup? I realize that there are | 2 types, one that hooks up to a floppy drive controller and one | that comes with its own card. (#2 applies to the second). Will | the EISA floppy/hard controller allow for this? (I want 1.2MB and | 1.44MB as a base) does it have more connectors? If I get the | type with a card, will I be able to use it with my system? | (see #2) While you can go with a Wangtek or Archive for about $500 these days, I think you would be better off with SCSI for it. If you get a lot of disk you can add a DAT tape. Anyone who can afford enough disk to need one can probably afford it ;-) -- bill davidsen - davidsen@sixhub.uucp (uunet!crdgw1!sixhub!davidsen) sysop *IX BBS and Public Access UNIX moderator of comp.binaries.ibm.pc and 80386 mailing list "Stupidity, like virtue, is its own reward" -me