Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!swrinde!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!sdd.hp.com!spool.mu.edu!uwm.edu!src.honeywell.com!msi.umn.edu!cs.umn.edu!kksys!edgar!mmug!p510.f22.n282.z1.mmug.edgar.mn.org!Jim.Spencer From: Jim.Spencer@p510.f22.n282.z1.mmug.edgar.mn.org (Jim Spencer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.programmer Subject: Re: News from the MacApp confrence. Message-ID: <3.27B9B832@mmug.edgar.mn.org> Date: 12 Feb 91 23:41:21 GMT Sender: ufgate@mmug.edgar.mn.org (newsout1.26) Organization: FidoNet node 1:282/22.510 - SmorgasBoard, Twin Cities, MN USA Lines: 23 Anders Wallgren writes in a message to All >>MacApp 3.0 has been completely ported over to C++ and the only >>source that will be distributed with the 3.0 release will be >>in C++. > >What? Has anyone else heard this same thing? That seems like a monumental >amount of work, given that we haven't got a 2.0.1 or anything in C++ >currently. And all this by May? Incredible. AW> AW> Yes, it was announced at the MacApp conference that this was AW> being done, to the chagrin of about 70 people who signed a petition AW> on the spot to keep it from happening, mostly because of the AW> concurrency with System 7.0. While I think moving to C++ is a AW> good thing, I think the timing could have been better... Apparently the announcement at the MADA conference has generated open warfare both inside and outside Apple. The smartest suggestion I've heard is that both Pascal and C++ versions be made available. The advantages I've heard put forward include the fact that it won't orphan Think Pascal users and it will keep the C++ side from using C++ specific gagets like multiple inheritance. Please note that personally I'm just as happy using C++ and think its the way of the future but a lot of people have invested a lot of time in Object Pascal. The argument I hear from the C++ crowd that they have had to be willing to read Pascal code up until now so its fair to force the Pascal crowd to read C++ doesn't work: anyone using C++ with MacApp did so with their eyes open. There are a lot of Pascal users of MacApp that have had no clue that they were going to be forced to learn a language that many of them abhore. -- Jim Spencer - via The Minnesota Macintosh Users Group UUCP-Fido Gateway UUCP: ...uunet!tcnet!kksys!edgar!mmug!22.510!Jim.Spencer INET: Jim.Spencer@p510.f22.n282.z1.mmug.edgar.mn.org