Path: utzoo!mnetor!tmsoft!torsqnt!lethe!yunexus!ists!helios.physics.utoronto.ca!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!hellgate.utah.edu!csn!datran2!smb From: smb@csn.org!datran2 Newsgroups: comp.sys.next Subject: Re: Those Damn Keyboards Message-ID: <1991Feb7.230938.21374@csn.org!datran2> Date: 7 Feb 91 23:09:38 GMT References: <5137@media-lab.MEDIA.MIT.EDU> Sender: datran2!smb@csn.org Organization: Data Transforms, Inc. Lines: 38 In article <5137@media-lab.MEDIA.MIT.EDU> lacsap@plethora.media.mit.edu (Pascal Chesnais) writes: > >ISO KEYBOARDS - JUST SAY NO!!! >Bring back the "Classic Keyboard"! I have refrained so far from this discussion, because I still haven't gotten over my ill will toward a design philosophy that would forget to include a PageUp PageDown, Home, and End key. Not to mention the tilda being "way over there". But I do think we ought to speak up and tell NeXT that they are moving _away_ from what we would like to see rather than towards some ideal held by a large number of people. Lets hear it for a rational keyboard! Stop taking away keys! This is, IMHO, the only major wart on an otherwise beautiful visage. The mouse is a little clunky, but useable. But I spend 8 to 10 hours a day at one keyboard or another. Adding this one to my repetoir of non-standards is just a matter of time and patience. But why is there this minimalist keyboard philosophy? Are you afraid that the keyboard might be two complex for me if there were a few more keys? Or is it that someone wants to force dependence on the mouse. Remember, this is a computer from the man who brought us the Mac without arrow keys. Very pure, but who is he fooling? It is already too late to have a standard interface design where all applications respond in a consistant way to PageUp and PageDown. Too bad. But don't make it worse than it already is. Some of us have to program with these suckers. Love the machine, hate the keyboard, steve. -- #====#====#====#====#====#====#====#====#====#====#====#====#====#====#====# # Steve Boker # "Badgers, we don't have no stinking badgers" # # datran2!smb@csn.org # -from Treasure of the Sierra Madre Zoo # #====#====#====#====#====#====#====#====#====#====#====#====#====#====#====#