Path: utzoo!mnetor!tmsoft!torsqnt!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!usc!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!rpi!bu.edu!wang!ice From: ice@wang.com (Fredrik Nyman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next Subject: Re: NeXTstation: where the bleep is cc? Where are the MAN PAGES ?!? Message-ID: Date: 13 Feb 91 02:36:34 GMT References: Distribution: comp Organization: Wang Labs, Lowell MA, USA Lines: 65 haroldt@paralandra.yorku.ca (Harold Tomlinson) writes: > From the info in MacWorld, I found out that the 'interface builder' was >missing from the NextStation version of the OS, but not what that means >EXACTLY. 'Certain utilites' were said to be missing... What 'certain >utilities'??? `ls`?? `cc`?? What is the NextStation really good for >"out of the box"? You can run WriteNow and look things up in Webster's :-) Most of the tools that are aimed at programmers (rather than users) went into the extended release of NeXT OS. To me this makes a *lot* of sense - people who get the 105MB NeXT-stations (who are going to run WP, WriteNow etc) don't have to throw away tools they'd never use anyway, and few developers would settle for less than 300 MB disk. What model of the NeXT-station were you going to get anyway? The 105 MB model *really* doesn't have enough disk to be usable for software development. The 300MB+ models come with a full OS preloaded. If you were to settle for a 200MB model, you would have ~100 MB free. This more than enough room for the C compiler, include files, libraries etc. > Okay, I've blathered enough, here is what I WANT, how close does a >NextStation come to it??? >Want? 0) High res graphics with the ability to display nice scanned images. You get megapixel resolution on an 17" CRT. > 1) Sound. Preferably Midi-Stereo. CD-quality sound. No MIDI port, but 3rd party vendors are probably working on that :-) > 2) 20 Mips ;) "Just" 15 MIPS. So sorry. :-) > 3) WordPerfect (c) A NeXT version is available. > 6) laser printer The low-cost 400 dpi NeXT laserprinter is available. >Need? 0) Unix (preferably Berkley) compatability. NeXT's OS is based on a Mach kernel. I *believe* NeXT OS is more BSDish than SysVish, but I'm not completely sure. > 1) a C compiler Bundled in the extended OS release. > 3) a Lisp interpreter Was bundled in OS 1.0, apparently unbundled in 2.0 :-( > 4) man pages Bundled in the extended OS release. > 5) gcc Bundled in the extended OS release I *THINK* > 6) gnu-emacs Bundled in the extended OS release. > 7) 2400bps modem and Kermit software You can use pretty much any external 2400 bps modem. Kermit is available. > 8) support for terminals Two serial ports. Built-in Ethernet ports (thinnet, 10base2), so you could get an Ethernet terminal server :-) > 9) ability to add more disk later. You have a SCSI port on the machine, so you can add external SCSI disks. Of course, you can also get rid of the internal hard disk and get one with greater capacity. -- Disclaimer: Wang doesn't care about my opinions, so why should you? Internet: BITNET: (in order of preference) USnail: Wang Labs, Inc., M/S 019-490, One Industrial Ave., Lowell, MA 01851