Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rutgers!usc!wuarchive!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!maverick.ksu.ksu.edu!ux1.cso.uiuc.edu!news.iastate.edu!news From: GR.MRB@isumvs.iastate.edu (MARK BERAN) Newsgroups: comp.sys.zenith Subject: Re: RAM simms Message-ID: <1991Feb15.175232.13497@news.iastate.edu> Date: 15 Feb 91 17:52:32 GMT Sender: news@news.iastate.edu (USENET News System) Distribution: usa Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA Lines: 40 In article <1991Feb15.020037.29706@news.nd.edu>, mandell@mozart.helios.nd.edu (Dan Mandell) writes: >Do the newer Zeniths require special Simms? What's different about >Zenith's memory access? > > Zenith machines do not use any SIMMs that could be called unusual. I did read an article in some journal or other that listed Zenith amoung a hand-full of companies who used non-standard memory in an attempt to keep selling their own over-priced memory. That just isn't true. The Zenith 248/12, 286LP/8, 286LP/12, LP+, 386SX-16, and 386SX-20 all use common 256Kx9-bit and 1Mx9-bit 80ns SIMMs, available from literally thousands of sources. Be careful though. Some of those sources really aren't very good. I generally recommend purchasing what is called 'major-on-major' brand SIMMs unless you know and have tested SIMMs from the source you are buying from. The term 'major-on-major' simply refers to major brand chips (ie: Toshiba, NEC, Hitachi, Okidata, etc) mounted by and on SIMM boards of the same make. The boards vary wildly from other sources. The Zenith 386/20, 386/25, 386/33, 386/33E, and I believe the new 486/25 all use what are becomming very common, 256Kx36-bit (1M) and 1Mx36-bit (4M) 80ns SIMMs, available not from thousands of sources, but certainly from hundreds. They are basically the same SIMMs which IBM, HP, AST, and others are using. The only known catch is that they really should be purchased as 'major-on-major' yet since the technology seems somehow to have eluded many of the local SIMMs assemblers. Prices have been higher, but even that has changed so that they are very near the price of 9-bit SIMMs. The nice thing about them is that because they are 36-bits wide, they can be added in onesies instead of 2 or 4 at a time as is required by most 16-bit and 32-bit machines. In 386 Zeniths, the first 4 SIMMs must be of the 256Kx36 variety. The remaining 4 can be either 256Kx36 or 1Mx36. In the new 486, it is recommended that the SIMMs be installed in pairs of 2 to maintain the memory interleaving. Mark