Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!sdd.hp.com!caen!etsu!cmi.com!kevinh From: kevinh@cmi.com (Kevin Hegg) Newsgroups: comp.unix.aux Subject: Re: A/UX concerns Message-ID: <8570@etsu.CMI.COM> Date: 15 Feb 91 13:25:39 GMT Sender: news@etsu.CMI.COM Organization: EDS Corp - Center for Machine Intelligence Lines: 32 References:<1991Feb13.122652.14565@helios.physics.utoronto.ca> <49119@apple.Apple.COM> <1991Feb14.204018.4351@helios.physics.utoronto.ca> Mark Bartelt writes My real concern is more general than just a complaint about A/UX's cc. I get the feeling that Apple doesn't really have much of a commitment to UNIX. Ten or so years ago, DEC had a small (tiny!), but talented.... I am also concerned about Apple's commitment to Unix. They are very much behind the rest of the Unix community. The feeling I get from Apple these days is "Don't worry, we know whats best for you". That attitude is fine when you can keep pace with the rest of the community. However, over the last couple of years Apple seems less and less capable of doing this. Another concern I have is Apple's suppresion of information on Mach for the Mac. Here's what I have heard. CMU ported Mach to all Mac II's except the ci and fx. Apple took it from there and is possibly negotiating with mt. xinu for distribution rights. OK Apple, what are you going to do? Are we going to see a commercial product with Mach? If not, how about relaxing your stranglehold on Mach. I started using the Mac about 6 years ago because you could feel that it was going to have a strong impact on the computer world. It was fun to be involved with something that was towards the leading edge. I think a lot of people gravitated towards the Mac for this reason. I think a lot of people will gravitate away from the Mac if this ceases to be true. Solving problems that the rest of the Unix community has already solved doesn't top my list of fun things to do. I don't mean to make this an Apple bashing session. There are a lot of things that I like about Macs. I still use the Mac as my primary computer, but I find myself using other ones more and more. Kevin Hegg, EDS Corp - Center for Machine Intelligence 2001 Commonwealth Blvd., Ann Arbor, Michigan 48105 Phone: (313) 995-0900 Internet: kevinh@cmi.com Applelink: D5990