Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!sun-barr!apple!ksand From: ksand@Apple.COM (Kent Sandvik) Newsgroups: comp.unix.aux Subject: Re: A/UX concerns (was "A/UX cc -- a ghost from the past") Message-ID: <49218@apple.Apple.COM> Date: 15 Feb 91 19:59:17 GMT References: <1991Feb13.122652.14565@helios.physics.utoronto.ca> <49119@apple.Apple.COM> <1991Feb14.204018.4351@helios.physics.utoronto.ca> Organization: Apple Computer Inc., Cupertino, CA Lines: 39 In article <1991Feb14.204018.4351@helios.physics.utoronto.ca> sysmark@cita.utoronto.ca writes: >My worry is that this is exactly the position that Apple is in now. >I don't doubt that the A/UX group has some really good people in it, >both techies and managers. But I can't shake the nagging suspicion >that they're both unappreciated by the rest of the company, and most >likely badly underfunded as well. After all, the fact that A/UX 2.0 >(a *recent* product) arrived lacking a modern C compiler is certainly >symptomatic of something. Gosh, I hope someone read the last cryptic sentence in my earlier entry... >I hope that my fears are unfounded, and that someone from Apple can >reassure me. But if my suspicion is correct, it's bad news for those >people who want to use A/UX, since it means that a lack of internal >support for the folks who write, improve, maintain, and document A/UX >will ensure that Apple's UNIX product will always lag behind the others. Speaking from experience from another company where I started working with UNIX, in which the word 'UNIX' was considered a dirty word (won't mention the company but it has nowadays unfortunately to do with the power of two), it takes an awful long time before the concept of UNIX and open systems are accepted in the whole-whole company, from bottom up. We speak about 6-10 years usually. Compared with the other company the UNIX people inside Apple have relatively free hands and a good budget, but these are my own opinions based on experiences about politics inside American computer companies. Regards, Kent Sandvik -- Kent Sandvik, Apple Computer Inc, Developer Technical Support NET:ksand@apple.com, AppleLink: KSAND DISCLAIMER: Private mumbo-jumbo Zippy++ says: "C++ is a write-only language, I can write programs in C++ but I can't read any of them".