Path: utzoo!mnetor!tmsoft!torsqnt!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!bonnie.concordia.ca!uunet!olivea!mintaka!bloom-picayune.mit.edu!athena.mit.edu!acook From: acook@athena.mit.edu (Andrew R Cook) Newsgroups: comp.windows.ms Subject: Re: Flicker. . .in 1024x768x256 w/Nec 3D Message-ID: <1991Feb13.140718.26550@athena.mit.edu> Date: 13 Feb 91 14:07:18 GMT References: <91042.221913MXP122@psuvm.psu.edu> <15085@uudell.dell.com> <12162@ur-cc.UUCP> <15093@uudell.dell.com> Sender: news@athena.mit.edu (News system) Reply-To: acook@athena.mit.edu (Andrew R Cook) Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology Lines: 37 In article <15093@uudell.dell.com>, jporter@twaddle.dell.com (Jeff Porter) writes: |> In article <12162@ur-cc.UUCP>, nsus_cif@troi.cc.rochester.edu (Nick Susch) writes: |> |> |> |> I assume that the first person is using a Tseng ET4000 board. I also have |> |> this board and have this annoying flicker problem. I know that 1024x768 |> |> is interlaced, but the flicker is horible under windows. If I exit |> |> windows and run a program in 1024 mode, I *can* tell it is interlaced, |> |> but it is *very* slight, and the screen in very easy to read. But as soon |> |> as I start up windows in 386 mode, something happens to the card. The |> |> flicker becomes unbarable. I have discoverd, using the option of my NEC |> |> 3D which saves the screen setting to each particular sync, that the 1024 |> |> mode under windows is a different sync then the "regular" 1024 mode. Does |> |> anyone know why this happens? It's like their is two modes on the ET4000, |> |> regular interlaced, and really slow interlaced, and windows picks the |> |> wrong one. Any help would be appreciated. |> |> |> |> It sounds like you've got an especially bad driver 386-mode driver for |> your VGA card. |> |> Jeff Porter Just my $.02 : There are two main reasons that you can percieve annoying flicker : The first is the screen refresh rate, as the gentleman noted above. If the windows driver uses the 60Hz mode, you will percieve a noticable 30Hz flicker. If you other program puts the card in a 70Hz (yeah!) mdoe, then you will see considerably less flicker at 35Hz (15% faster refresh). The other reason for the difference in percieved flicker is what you are looking at on the screen. Windows stuff has a lot of horizontal and vertical lines. When the screen is refreshed every other line, Horizontal lines can appear to flicker a lot, especially if they are only 1 pixel wide. Full screen graphics, on the other hand, like gif's, have images that are more uniform. This makes the flicker less percievable. Andy Cook