Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!csc.ti.com!ti-csl!tilde.csc.ti.com!axis!logic.dsg.ti.com!bruce From: bruce@logic.dsg.ti.com (Bruce Florman (BFLM)) Newsgroups: rec.skydiving Subject: Re: bungee jump from plane Message-ID: <1991Feb12.153333.18918@axis.dsg.ti.com> Date: 12 Feb 91 15:33:33 GMT References: <38P3w3w161w@grafted.UUCP> Sender: news@axis.dsg.ti.com (System News Administ) Organization: Texas Instruments, Austin, Tx. Lines: 46 In article <38P3w3w161w@grafted.UUCP> dappel@grafted.UUCP (Dave Appel) writes: >to: the genius who wants to bungee jump from a plane. > >Uh, excuse me, but where did you leave your BRAIN? > >Do you have any idea of the effects that vector forces have >on an airplane? Lift, drag, thrust, etc? Have you ever >noticed the pilot trying his darnedest to maintain straight >and level flight with 4 or more skydivers hanging on the >outside? Usually causing the CG (center of gravity) to >be outside of normal limits? > >First off, connecting the bungee cord to any point other than >the center of gravity is going to cause the plane to be unstable >at best, or tumble out of the sky at worst. Uh, I don't think so. I suppose that in these modern times it may be that nobody remembers them, but have you ever heard of a "jumper in tow?" It is a situation which arises when a static-line (remember those?) fails to release a jumper due to entanglement or mis-rigging. Although it is (was) something to be avoided, it is not generally considered to be catastrophic to the airplane. A bungee, because of its elasticity would probably be even less stressful to the airplane than a jumper in tow. > [other complaints deleted] > >Maybe, just MAYBE, such a stunt would be possible from a C-130 >hercules, where the weight of one jumper would make only >a very small difference in the CG. But anything the size >of a DC-3 or smaller would be courting disaster. Well, I do know of one static-line jumper who managed to get his main entangled with the tail wheel of a DC-3 (don't ask me how, I didn't see the event itself, I just saw the plane landing with the main trailing off the wheel). Even with a whole slew of floaters, the CG on a DC-3 is well ahead of the tail wheel, but the plane didn't crash or have any other severe control problems. I'm not the one who proposed bungee jumping from a plane, and I'm not sufficiently impressed with the idea to expend much energy trying to organize such a jump, but I think that your objections are largely without basis. --Bruce Florman D9019 (ret.) Blue Skies!