Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!usc!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!pacific.mps.ohio-state.edu!linac!att!cbnews!cbnews!military From: orpheus@reed.UUCP (P. Hawthorne) Newsgroups: sci.military Subject: Re: SUPERTOMCAT/ATF Message-ID: <1991Feb7.021044.4709@cbnews.att.com> Date: 7 Feb 91 02:10:44 GMT References: <1991Feb4.071106.22819@cbnews.att.com> Sender: military@cbnews.att.com (William B. Thacker) Organization: Reed College, Portland OR Lines: 36 Approved: military@att.att.com From: orpheus@reed.UUCP (P. Hawthorne) . wwy@vax5.cit.cornell.edu writes: . There are rough, proposed plans for a Tomcat 2, but the DOD is currently . more interested in the development of the Advanced Tactical Fighter (ATF). . Prototypes are currently being tested. Top Secret [Eyes Only] Project. With four contractors on two sides of a development campaign and the other major military contractors taking sides and providing assistance to one side, this project has an enormous profile for the media. Decent photographs of the prototypes are widely available. Certain sections do seem to be missing from the overall pictures, but this is probably an oversight by the photographers. The most glaring lack of information available to the media has been the capacity of the weapon bays, but that can be guessed. I suspect that the reason the YF-22 and YF-23 are so much more public than the F-19 or the F-117 is because the Soviets clearly do not have the resources to duplicate these advancements from what is relatively sketchy information. Materials and componants are well classified. Now that the Navy is not going to get the A-12, I wonder if either of the contractors is working on a variant for carrier duty. Estimated radar cross sections for both protoypes are significantly higher than on the F-117. Is there something on the prototypes that the estimates are not taking into account, like the electronics suite? I read that Lockheed experimented with transmitting background clutter from below the aircraft upwards for the benefit of orbiting radar planes. It sounded promising. orpheus@reed