Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!swrinde!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!pacific.mps.ohio-state.edu!linac!att!cbnews!cbnews!military From: gjw@cs.glasgow.ac.uk (Mr Garry J. Wardrope) Newsgroups: sci.military Subject: Re: Rank of military officers Message-ID: <1991Feb8.015943.19818@cbnews.att.com> Date: 8 Feb 91 01:59:43 GMT References: <1991Feb4.063141.20048@cbnews.att.com> <1991Feb5.043249.6192@cbnews.att.com> <1991Feb7.015853.3664@cbnews.att.com> Sender: military@cbnews.att.com (William B. Thacker) Organization: Computing Sci, Glasgow Univ, Scotland Lines: 83 Approved: military@att.att.com From: "Mr Garry J. Wardrope" For those of you interested the UK ranks are slightly different ( particularly the RAF ). Entries at each level in each list are equivalent. Royal Navy Insignia (Gold lace worn on sleeve or on shoulder straps ) Admiral of the Fleet 1 Broad stripe and 4 stripes Admiral 1 " " 3 " Vice Admiral 1 " " 2 " Rear Admiral 1 " " 1 " Commodore 1 Broad stripe Captain 4 Stripes Commander 3 Stripes Lieutenant commander 2 Stripes with one half stripe between Lieutenant 2 Stripes Sub Lieutenant 1 Stripe Midshipman On each side of the collar of the coat, a white patch with a buttonhole of white twist and a corresponding button. (Each branch had a different colour beetween the stripes but this is only used my the medical branch now.) Until recently there were different ranks for WRNS but they have now been integreated with the men. ( No jokes please) Army Insignia (Shoulder straps ) Field Marshal Crown, crossed guns surrounded by laurel General Crown, 1 star, crossed sword and gun Lieutenant General Crown, crossed sword and gun Major General 1 star, crossed sword and gun Brigadier Crossed sword and gun Colonel Crown, 2 stars Lieutenant Colonel Crown, 1 star Major Crown Captain 3 stars Lieutenant 2 stars 2nd Lieutenant 1 star ( Stars are often referred to a pips ) RAF Insignia (As RN only narrower stripes and they are blue and black) Marshal of the Royal Air Force Air Chief Marshal Air Marshal Air Vice Marshal Air Commodore Group Captain Wing Commander Squadron Leader Flight Lieutenant Flying Officer / Observation Officer Pilot Officer Senior Naval Officers (Commodore and above) were shoulder badges when in dress uniform, similar to the army insignia. Army officers were a type of stripe system when in dress uniform ! Marines use army ranks. Most if not all these ranks are currently in use in the UK armed forces. As far as the Navy goes there is an Admiral of the Fleet (naughty of me but I've forgotten his name ) The Senior Naval Officer Middle East is Commodore Chris Crag. I'm not so up on the army and RAF. (Dont make bets on the Army insignia .) -- Mail: Garry Wardrope, Computing Science Dept., Tel: (041) 339 8855 x5322 Glasgow Univ., 17 Lilybank Gardens, Glasgow G12 8QQ, UK. ARPA: gjw%cs.glasgow.ac.uk@nsfnet-relay.ac.uk USENET: gjw@cs.glasgow.uucp JANET:gjw@uk.ac.glasgow.cs useBANGnet: ...mcsun!ukc!cs.glasgow.ac.uk!gjw