Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!samsung!dali.cs.montana.edu!uakari.primate.wisc.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!usc!almaak.usc.edu!ajayshah From: ajayshah@almaak.usc.edu (Ajay Shah) Newsgroups: comp.arch Subject: Intel and Sun: from a MBA viewpoint Message-ID: <30522@usc> Date: 20 Feb 91 04:05:28 GMT Sender: news@usc Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA Lines: 27 Nntp-Posting-Host: almaak.usc.edu Originator: ajayshah@almaak.usc.edu Don't you think it's a bum deal for Sun: they invent SPARC, they do a fantastic job doubling the speeds of machines every 2 years since 1982 or so, they have wonderful attitudes on openness etc., they do a tremendous job of SunOS and endup giving it away for free to cloners, they positively beg people to clone and compete with 'em, and they endup returning profits like $150e6 last quarter. Most probably their highest profits ever too! Look at Intel: they start out with a terrible idea on the 8086 (relative to Motorola offerings at the time), they strike it rich with IBM (just like Microsoft), they do a terrible job with the 286, the 386 is a nice architecture but they single source it, they single source the 486, they charge $1k for a chip and they return oooodles of profits. What is this story telling us? Does this mean that market pressures prefer corporate strategies like Intel's -- no matter how terrible Intel might be towards it's customer base? If you did a startup today, would you try the Sun path or the Intel/Microsoft/IBM way? -- _______________________________________________________________________________ Ajay Shah, (213)734-3930, ajayshah@usc.edu The more things change, the more they stay insane. _______________________________________________________________________________