Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!uwm.edu!ux1.cso.uiuc.edu!cs.uiuc.edu!gillies From: gillies@m.cs.uiuc.edu (Don Gillies) Newsgroups: comp.arch Subject: Re: Intel and Sun: from a MBA viewpoint Message-ID: <1991Feb20.080511.13105@m.cs.uiuc.edu> Date: 20 Feb 91 08:05:11 GMT References: <30522@usc> Organization: University of Illinois, Dept. of Comp. Sci., Urbana, IL Lines: 31 ajayshah@almaak.usc.edu (Ajay Shah) writes: >What is this story telling us? Does this mean that market >pressures prefer corporate strategies like Intel's -- no matter >how terrible Intel might be towards it's customer base? If you >did a startup today, would you try the Sun path or the >Intel/Microsoft/IBM way? Relatively speaking, the Intel/IBM/Microsoft platform is more of an open architecture than the Sun platform, if you judge openness by the number of (cpu, card, monitor) vendors that compete for market share. That is why Intel is doing so well. MS-DOS has always been an open operating system -- clone BIOS's began to arrive just months after the PC was introduced. I believe that Sun did not license SunOS until years after MS-DOS was widely available. In other words, Sun may seem like an "open architecture" company, but the PC is much more of an open machine than a SPARC workstation. Since Intel makes chips and Sun makes turnkey UNIX boxes, they are not really comparable. Compare Sun to any PC systems vendor. Is any clone vendor making the same ROA (return on assets) as Sun? I bet the answer is no. Most clone makers are struggling to keep their heads above water. Intel charges *fair* prices for their CPU chips, and they deliver mass quantities sooner than nearly all other microprocessor merchants. This appearance of timeliness (their chips are always buggy when first delivered) and capability for high volume deliveries, are two reasons why they make (and deserve) a healthy profit. --