Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!swrinde!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!sdd.hp.com!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!mips!winchester!mash From: mash@mips.COM (John Mashey) Newsgroups: comp.arch Subject: Re: Be Prepared... Keywords: Lots Of Memory Message-ID: <46049@mips.mips.COM> Date: 21 Feb 91 02:17:06 GMT References: <1991Feb13.160718.25759@visix.com> <3197@crdos1.crd.ge.COM> Sender: news@mips.COM Reply-To: mash@mips.COM (John Mashey) Organization: MIPS Computer Systems, Inc. Lines: 47 In article <3197@crdos1.crd.ge.COM> davidsen@crdos1.crd.ge.com (bill davidsen) writes: >In article <1991Feb13.160718.25759@visix.com> jeff@nsx (Jeff Barr) writes: >| Voracious_users_of_memory and assumers_that_sizeof(char *)==sizeof(int): >| Note that people who are building new processor chips (e.g. >| the MIPS R4000) say that by 1993 typical high-end micro-based systems >| are going to have more than 4 gigabytes of address space, and in many >| cases this much real memory. > I guess if you define high end micros to mean those with 4GB of >memory, then this will be true. There will always be problems which can >use this much memory, but somehow I can't see why there would be that >much memory on a typical system. As long as cost and failure rate are Note: I don't think anybody has claimed that 4GB of memory will be "typical" real soon [obviously, if there is a "typical" number it is 640KB :-)]. We do claim that: a) More than one company that builds micro-based servers will obviously offer 4GB of real memory within just a few years. b) People often buy 50%-max memory sizes, and a few do buy maxed machines, or more likely, upgrade there. c) There are important applications that care about this. They are not necessarily "typical" applications, just ones that happen to be very important to reasonable numbers of people, not leading-edge crazies. Elsewhere, there was a question about desktop applications that might want this. I thought I posted a long discussion on this, but let me resummarize: 1) Databases 2) Video 3) Image 4) CAD 5) G.I.S. 6) Technical number-crunch Of these, workstations are relevant to every one for software development, and at least for 2-5 for end-user usage. Again, this discussion is NOT claiming that your word processor, spreadsheet, and mail programs suddenly will croak if they don't go 64-bits, or that all 32-bit machines are suddenly obsolete, but that convenient more-than-32-bit addressing will be an enabler for certain classes of applications that are already important, and likely to be more widespread if they can be made cheap. -- -john mashey DISCLAIMER: UUCP: mash@mips.com OR {ames,decwrl,prls,pyramid}!mips!mash DDD: 408-524-7015, 524-8253 or (main number) 408-720-1700 USPS: MIPS Computer Systems, 930 E. Arques, Sunnyvale, CA 94086