Path: utzoo!mnetor!tmsoft!torsqnt!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!bonnie.concordia.ca!uunet!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!pacific.mps.ohio-state.edu!linac!att!pacbell.com!ucsd!casbah.acns.nwu.edu!nucsrl!telecom-request From: julian%bongo.UUCP@nosc.mil (Julian Macassey) Newsgroups: comp.dcom.telecom Subject: Re: Should Projects be Connected to the Phone Line? Message-ID: Date: 16 Feb 91 15:43:33 GMT Sender: news@casbah.acns.nwu.edu Reply-To: Julian Macassey Organization: The Hole in the Wall Hollywood California U.S.A. Lines: 49 Approved: Telecom@eecs.nwu.edu X-Submissions-To: telecom@eecs.nwu.edu X-Administrivia-To: telecom-request@eecs.nwu.edu X-Telecom-Digest: Volume 11, Issue 124, Message 2 of 8 In article <74667@bu.edu.bu.edu> atn@cory.berkeley.edu (Alan Nishioka) writes: X-Telecom-Digest: Volume 11, Issue 114, Message 4 of 10 > However, in response to my article, John Higdon brought up a problem > that had been bothering me. He said that my project SHOULD comply > with the various parts of the FCC rules since it needed to connect > directly to the phone network. Stuff deleted > I see two issues involved: One of safety (to craftspersons, etc. ) and > the other of just following the rules. I can see if I were going to > sell these devices that I would be interested in both, but as a > hobbyist I am mostly interested in the first. This comes up every now and again. Yes, if you interpret the rules as a paper pusher, you can't attach anything to the line that isn't certified as meeting FCC Part 68. But then how would you design and test a device in order to take a "production model" of it to take to an FCC lab for testing? This is obviously silly and not the intent of the regs. So yes, although it is by the book illegal, you can make one of devices for your own use. The telephone police are unlikely to call. If you want to make it availble to the public as a product, get it FCC certified or the telephone police will pay a visit. Of course if a device violates some of the FCC rules, it may not work very well. The rules are there partly as a quality check. But you don't have to be worried about stuff like REN measuremnt if you have nothing attached when the phone is on hook etc. Now the "damage to the network" myth. If you attach anything strange to your phone line, the only part of the network liable to be put out of commission is your phone line. If you short the line you will busy it out. If you open the line, it will look like there is no phone attached. It is much, much more dangerous to mess with mains electricity, yet people do that all the time. Yes, if you really mess with electricity, the whole street can go dark. Yes, you can build your own electrical devices and connect them. Funny world isn't it? Please tinker with your phones and equipment. It is the best way to learn. It is hard to kill yourself playing with phones. It is hard to cause fires playing with phones. I wish I could say the same about mains electricity. Julian Macassey, n6are julian@bongo.info.com ucla-an!denwa!bongo!julian N6ARE@N6YN (Packet Radio) n6are.ampr.org [44.16.0.81] voice (213) 653-4495