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From: rbl@nitrex.UUCP ( Dr. Robin Lake )
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.visualization
Subject: Re: apE
Message-ID: <528@nitrex.UUCP>
Date: 16 Feb 91 12:37:03 GMT
References: <91027.193421PFKEB@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU> <43550@ut-emx.uucp>
Reply-To: rbl@nitrex.UUCP (Robin Lake)
Organization: BP Research - Warrensville Research and Env. Sci. Center, Cleveland, OH
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In article <43550@ut-emx.uucp> jonabbey@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Jonathan Abbey) writes:
|>In article <91027.193421PFKEB@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU>
|>PFKEB@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU (Paul Kunz) writes:
|>>
|>>  This is a survey to those funded by DoE.
|>>
|>>  Do you have or  have ordered apE?
|>>
|>>  If yes, then how long did you legal department take to sign  the
|>>license?
|>>
|>>  I'm just checking if my own legal department is off scale or just
|>>normal.
|>
|>We don't have an explicit legal department, and we are not DoE, but
|>apE's software license does contain some hairy clauses.  For one thing,
|>it states that all employees who use apE must indicate in writing that
|>they have read and agree to comply with the terms of the license.
|>
|>Arranging that might be giving your folks some trouble.
|>
|>-- 
|>
|>Jonathan Abbey (512) 472-2052        \                           (512) 835-3081
|>jonabbey@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu           \        broccol@csdfx8a.arlut.utexas.edu
|>The University of Texas at Austin      \          Applied Research Laboratories

When we drove to Columbus and met with the Ohio Supercomputer Center folks,
they said, as I recall, "just cross out anything you don't like on the license
agreement and send it back.  Our legal folks aren't that hard to get along with."

Our legal folks are sticklers for detail and they only had one minor problem
which didn't deal with the "everyone has to read it" clause.  One of our
vendors gets around that issue by prepending the application's operation with
a natice that has to be responded to with a CR before proceeding into the
application ...

Rob Lake
I certainly don't speak for our legal staffs!