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From: jerry@TALOS.UUCP (Jerry Gitomer)
Newsgroups: comp.lang.forth
Subject: Re: What should the Standard include?
Message-ID: <1151@TALOS.UUCP>
Date: 20 Feb 91 14:59:47 GMT
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esj@harvee.UUCP (Eric S Johansson) writes:

:In article <2363.UUL1.3#5129@willett.pgh.pa.us: ForthNet@willett.pgh.pa.us
:(ForthNet articles from GEnie) writes:
::
:: Category 10,  Topic 30
:: Message 97        Sat Feb 16, 1991
:: B.RODRIGUEZ2 [Brad]          at 16:23 EST
::
:: From Mitch Bradley:
::
:: : The problem with criteria, either "necessary" or "sufficient",
::  : is that there is no mechanism for either consistently applying
::  : or enforcing them.
::
:: I couldn't have said it better myself!  However, this is not a problem with
:: criteria per se -- it's a problem with the TC.
::
:How can you claim this is a problem with the TC?  "necessary" and "sufficient"
:are ambigious terms.  For example, would you go into an auto
:mechanics shop, hand him (or her) your car and say "do what ever is
:necessary and send me the bill."  I think not (otherwise I want to be
:your auto mechanic :-)

Unfortunately, twice I have had to hand my body to surgeons and
say "do whatever is necessary and send my insurance company the bill" :-( 

:When ever any organization is working with ambigious criteria, you
:get inconsistent results.  This is true for contracts,
:standards, agreements, or any situation where group sez "we will do this"
:and does not define "this".

The TC, like any other standards group, represents a multitude of
interests.  As a result ambiguous criteria cannot be avoided and
the resulting standard tends to be the least offensive compromise.

No one likes it, but without a strong defacto standard supported
by an industry giant, we shouldn't anticipate anything "better".

-- 
Jerry Gitomer at National Political Resources Inc, Alexandria, VA USA
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