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From: manes@vger.nsu.edu ((Mark D. Manes), Norfolk State University)
Newsgroups: comp.multimedia
Subject: Re: CDI questions
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Date: 16 Feb 91 12:48:38 GMT
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In article <5042@mcrware.UUCP>, eric@mcrware.UUCP (Eric Miller) writes:
> In article <639.27ba5a65@vger.nsu.edu> manes@vger.nsu.edu ((Mark D. Manes),
> Norfolk State University) writes:
>>I find it interesting that you are completely ignoring the significance
>>of Commodore's CDTV unit.
>>> 
>>> IBM will never be able to compete in this market because of the "perception"
>>> that consumers have.  They don't buy IBM stereo components.  They buy IBM
>>> computers.
> 
> Sorry Mark, but I have never seen a Commodore Stereo or VCR...

Shortly you will.  Are you not aware of the pending release of CDTV from
Commodore.  This unit is near release and contains a Amiga 500 and a 
CD-ROM.  This system is packaged in a stereo-component like case and 
will be in Montgomery Wards and others.

CDTV will also play the music CDs as well.  No, it is not as exciting
as what I have read about CD-I, but CDTV is going to be delievered 
_first_.  Sometimes the firstest is the bestest. :-)  

I admit that the "jury is out" on CDTV, but it is exciting.

> 
>>You folks wonder why Amiga people are so "defensive".  You see, in a market
>>nearly created by Commodore the only machines mentioned in a message like
>>this is PC and Mac.  Ignorance is bliss I guess.
> 
> Again, I apologize.  I didn't mean for this to be a list of all known computers.
> Actually, I think that Amiga has a fantastic platform for multi-media.  Several
> CD-I engineers and other artists I work with use them in their own homes.  I
> even recommend them to people who want nice systems without the expense of
> M**'s and P*'s.  The point I was making was the M**'s and P*'s have a fairly
> tight grip on the BUSINESS market.  Artists and Musicians very often use Amigas.

Apology accepted.  Really, it gets annoying in a field nearly created by
the Amiga; the amiga ends up with the least amount of press.

> 
> Consumers buying stereo equipment buy Magnavox, Sony, RCA, Panasonic,
> JVC, Sharp, Sanyo, Pioneer, Yamaha, ....  These are the names that they know
> and trust.  These are the companies who create standards for consumer
> electronics.  These (and many others) are the companies manufacturing CD-I
> players.

Consumers also buy Nintendo, and certainly that name does not ring the 
bell of standards.
 
Standards are derived from affordability, flash and consumer trust.  
Commodore has _always_ been the number one consumer-based computer
company.  Lets not forget the C64. :-)

> 
> Eric Miller
> 
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