Xref: utzoo comp.os.msdos.misc:1199 comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc:6616 Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!bonnie.concordia.ca!thunder.mcrcim.mcgill.edu!snorkelwacker.mit.edu!shelby!agate!usenet.ins.cwru.edu!gatech!uflorida!reef.cis.ufl.edu!jdb From: jdb@reef.cis.ufl.edu (Brian K. W. Hook) Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc Subject: Re: Need More DOS Memory! Message-ID: <26991@uflorida.cis.ufl.EDU> Date: 18 Feb 91 13:41:53 GMT References: <24473@netcom.COM> Sender: news@uflorida.cis.ufl.EDU Organization: UF CIS Dept. Lines: 40 In article <24473@netcom.COM> noring@netcom.COM (Jon Noring) writes: >Hello, > >Could anybody out there summarize to me what software is the best to use, >and other things I should be aware of. I've heard that Quarterdeck has some >good software to do this (Deskview?). BTW, I have a 386-33 machine with >8 megs and am running MS-DOS 4.01. Thanks. Well, I personally have used QEMM and QRAM and find them both satisfactory. The products that you will want to consider the most are the 386 specific products, such as QEMM-386, 386MAX, and NetRoom/386. Of these I believe that you would be most interested in is QEMM, although 386MAX is supposed to be comparable. QEMM, among other things, replaces HIMEM.SYS, will load device drivers and what not into high memory, will shadow ROM, give you EMS 4.0 out of XMS, convert XMS to EMS, etc. Right now you can pick it up mail order for about 80 dollars, and it is WELL WORTH IT! I use DOS 3.3, which gives me about 10K (?) more than 4.01, but being able to load METASHEL (a 90K graphics driver), Mouse.sys, ansi.sys, driver.sys, and buffers all into high memory gives me a total of 592K available. The only problems that I have discovered so far are that: QEMM conflicts with other protected mode programs (notably Turbo Debugger 386), but gets a long with most 286 protected mode programs. In other words, other 386 control programs get irked with QEMM occasionally. The other thing is that Quarterdeck tech support is atrocious....I have YET to get through to them! I've had the line picked up ONCE, and then I was put on hold by voice mail for 15 minutes before I hung up. And it's not even toll free. DesqView is another Quarterdeck product, but it is a system for multitasking and usually relies on QEMM386 for the memory management. If you have a motherboard that shadows (mine does....Micronics 386-33) then be sure and put the NOSH line in your QEMM.SYS line, otherwise you will get random reboots. Brian