Xref: utzoo comp.sources.wanted:15338 alt.sources.wanted:944 comp.emacs:10123 Newsgroups: comp.sources.wanted,alt.sources.wanted,comp.emacs Path: utzoo!utgpu!watserv1!watmath!att!cbnewse!danj1 From: Dan_Jacobson@ATT.COM Subject: Re: English Text Generators: Eliza or Doctor in Emacs Reply-To: Dan_Jacobson@ATT.COM Organization: AT&T-BL, Naperville IL, USA Date: Tue, 19 Feb 91 18:08:26 GMT Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Dan_Jacobson@ATT.COM's message of Mon, 18 Feb 91 04:17:13 GMT References: <9102180243.AA01650@bucrf18> Sender: danj1@cbnewse.att.com (Dan Jacobson) Lines: 66 In the interest of others who are looking for Eliza, I'll respond to Noah's (^H backspace filled, had to run col -b on it) e-mail here. >>>>> On Tue, 19 Feb 91 11:48:59 EST, noah@atmos.bu.edu (Noah Group) said: Noah> Dear Dan, Noah> Thanks for the info you posted about Eliza, BUT... Noah> When I checked out prep.ai.mit.edu all I could find in the Noah> pub/gnu directory was a bunch of BIG Emacs files. i had no idea Noah> which one might have had the info you meantioned. I looked about Noah> for some sort of index... Getting warmer. In the file emacs-18.57.tar.Z there, you want rw-rw-rw- 50995 Jan 9 15:57 1991 emacs-18.57/lisp/doctor.el Noah> I may have missed it. If you can't supply me with more info, Noah> then that is okay, I just want to save myself some trouble Noah> diggin if you happen to remember which file I need. I would recommend building the whole editor (using all of file emacs-18.57.tar.Z, do "man zcat" or "man compress", "man tar"), yes it's the most popular version of the famous emacs editor. It can emulate VI. You can play doctor (Eliza) with it. You can read the manual on line with "^H i" or "ESC x info", you can play doctor with "ESC x doctor", also try "ESC x psychoanalyze-pinhead" to have doctor & crazyman got at it one-on-one. If you know TeX, you can print out the manual, or better yet, send the Free Sofware foundation $20 for a bound copy ... address is in the .../etc directory. Noah> Also I was unclear as to the nature of your reply. You said Noah> ohcheck out the Emacs manual.and you listed two parts. Doeshthe Noah> manual=include source code? Or was this just a refernce that Noah> might interest me? I don't know emacs; They're separate. Noah> if thesDoctordsource ismincludedfiscitpin some sort of Noah> emacs script? Perhaps it is a stretch of my imagination but I Noah> don't understand why emacs, an editor, would have Doctor, a Noah> game, in the manual... I have seen some pretty weird things It's all written in interpreted GNU Emacs lisp, which can be compiled too. it can even do "ESC x hanoi" Noah> done with Vi macros, so any explanationsis likely to fool me. You won't be disapointed, build GNU Emacs and find out. There are several gnu.* & *.emacs.* newsgroups too. Nobody will revoke you're licence to use the time you invested in learning GNU Emacs ... read the "copyleft" (as opposed to copyright) on the sources. Noah> Yours, Noah> Noah Spurrier Noah> noah@atmos.bu.edu noah@bucrf18.bu.edu -- Dan_Jacobson@ATT.COM Naperville IL USA +1 708-979-6364