Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!usc!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!ucbvax!DDOHRZ11.BITNET!URP005 From: URP005@DDOHRZ11.BITNET (Bert Haberland) Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2 Subject: Re: Old! AppleII Plus Message-ID: <9102181359.AA06366@apple.com> Date: 18 Feb 91 14:02:02 GMT References: Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Organization: The Internet Lines: 18 X-Unparsable-Date: Mon, 18 Feb 91 14:24:51 SET I just had the same problems with the keyboard of my II+ Rev. 7. First I tried to solve the problem by cleaning and bendind the contacts just a little bit, which worked fine for half a year or so and the problems returned. As I'm using another IIe and there's a big difference between II+ and IIe german keyboard I decided myself to build an IIe compatible keyboard for the II+. Now you might think, "That's THE solution", but be careful: It's an awful lot of work and you have to have experience in soldering electronics. For this alternative it would be better to have some more e-mails if you're interested. If you like to keep your Rev. 0 one-part-keyboard I can only offer the circuit diagrams for the keyboard matrix and the mainboard connectors etc in case the solution offered by Doug Gwyn does not help sufficiently and you have to rebuild the matrix. My first question concerning my problem was also addressed to my apple dealer and they offered me a Rev. 7 two-part-keyboard for an enormous price,which I was unable to accept. If the price is acceptable for you, this should solve your problem too as it's compatible mechanically for fixing and electrically for the connector. Bert.