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From: rrd@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Ray Depew)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: 680x0 are NOT obsolete (was Re: TT upgrades)
Message-ID: <7340085@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM>
Date: 15 Feb 91 15:30:01 GMT
References: <1991Feb8.185446.28594@rodan.acs.syr.edu>
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA
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In hpfcso:comp.sys.atari.st, rehrauer@apollo.HP.COM (Steve Rehrauer) writes:

>In article <1540010@hpcc01.HP.COM> wright@hpcc01.HP.COM (Jeff Wright) writes:
>>> 2.  Motorola has only two REAL 680x0 customers left: Apple and Motorola.  NeXT
>>>     might pick up some slack, but not more than 2-3%...
>>> 6.  Motorola has several REAL customers for 88xxx: Data General, Tektronix,
>>>     Sequent, Opus, and, of course, Motorola.
>>
>>Call me biased, but I consider Hewlett Packard to be more *REAL* than any
>>of Data General, Tektronix, Sequent, Opus, or Motorola.
>
   >But to be fair, the shipments of all of the above "not Apple" products
   >probably don't add up to a tenth of the number of Macs, STs and Amigas
   >that go out the door.  Workstations may get the trade-rag hype, but in
   >terms of volume consumption of 680x0s they're pretty small potatoes,
   >I'd guess.  By that measure (volume==REAL), the original poster is right.
   >(Of course, I suppose "REAL" must have different meaning in 88k-land...)
>
>>  Since you're
>>apparently not aware, HP does a pretty good business in Motorola 68k
>>workstations, partially through the aquisition of Apollo
>
   >Oh, is *that* why you bought us?  I was beginning to wonder...
   >And here I thought it was to get discounts on DOMAIN nodes... :>

Hate to correct you both, but every LaserJet HP has sold contains a 680X0.
I may be wrong on this (time for someone from HP Boise to jump into this!)
but I'm sure there are more LaserJets than Macs out there by now.  It's 
hard to beat a sales strategy of "gain more respect, add more features, drop
the price again."  If Apple had followed this strategy, I'd be typing this
in from a Mac II.


Regards
Ray Depew
HP ICBD -- IC's By Decree
rrd@hpfitst1.hp.com
(350 at work, ST at home)