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From: carter@cat27.cs.wisc.edu (Gregory Carter)
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Subject: Re: No More Mac ROMs?
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Date: 16 Feb 91 02:20:40 GMT
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nut@nuthaus.UUCP  {hoptoad,well}!wet!nuthaus!nut  nut@wet.UUCP writes:
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  Perhaps with the rumoured Mac OS clone coming soon at a dealer
near you, Spectre will be saved.  It seems to me that an intelligent
company selling a cloned edition of the Mac ROMs would not halt
their distribution to a paying customer (maybe GBS could even make
the entire thing into a card and not bother with the cart!).
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    I really don't think so.  First of all the implementation is
not really ST accessable.  Mainly because as so many other people
have pointed out it uses the Motif/X Release 4 interface which is
so large that you people would need 4 megs for just a good (complete)
implementation.   And a 8Mhz 68000 running X is something I don't
want to think about using.

    What it does do is open up the possiblility of Mac programs being
transportable to the mainframe world, perhaps with a little rewrite
here and there, Mac program could be running on the nearest super mini,
386/030 machine nearest you!

    Really, the MAC ROM problem is quite a nasty problem.  I have tried
to call gadgets inc many a time to cancel my order as:

      Spectre GCR 299 + MAC ROMs 273 = ~600, another hundred I could get
a Mac Classic at dealer cost.  And from what I here 273 is an excellent
price for the ROMS.

      I am really steamed.  Apple is engaging in guerilla warfare and
I am going to get my ROMS APPLE if I have to either BY THEM LEGALLY
or obtain them WITH OTHER MEANS at MY DISPOSAL.

      I really wish more guys like Denis Hayes existed so that we could
REALLY give Apple some blows, economically.  There is absolutely no
competition between Apple and other companies because Apple decided
everything Xerox Park worked on was actually theirs to use, and no one elses.
People are forced to buy Apple technology at premium prices.  I think
the Supreme court should tell Apple that the technology to transform
Xerox Park's work should be PUBLIC DOMAIN, after all, look what happened
to AT&T.  Now we have competition, we can actually use phone lines
now with 9600 baud modems because these companies worked to improve
their communications equipment.

---For a safer world, I would like to see thousands of people do what
   Denis Hayes did, Apple would be forced to drop its shorts and eat'em.
   Or how about an IIfx for 1800.00 bucks?  

--Gregory