Xref: utzoo comp.sys.3b1:347 comp.sys.att:11832 Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!uunet!mcsun!ukc!dcl-cs!aber-cs!athene!pcg From: pcg@cs.aber.ac.uk (Piercarlo Grandi) Newsgroups: comp.sys.3b1,comp.sys.att Subject: Re: Ksh (newest) Message-ID: Date: 18 Feb 91 20:41:38 GMT References: <54@morwyn.UUCP> <1199@galaxia.Newport.RI.US> <1991Feb13.142721.26896@bellcore.bellcore.com> Sender: pcg@aber-cs.UUCP Organization: Coleg Prifysgol Cymru Lines: 38 Nntp-Posting-Host: odin In-reply-to: krohn@cellar.bae.bellcore.com's message of 13 Feb 91 14:27:21 GMT On 13 Feb 91 14:27:21 GMT, krohn@cellar.bae.bellcore.com (Eric Krohn) said: [ ... about the latest AT&T ksh ... ] krohn> When I checked yesterday on the AT&T Toolchest, the binary krohn> sublicensing fee was $20,000, not $10,000. That makes the krohn> economics even worse. There are some ksh PD clones around, and they do look pretty OK. Consider the PD ksh, and ash, and clam, and the reactive keyboard if you want advanced feature. You can always get tcsh if you really want a feature laden shell. Tcsh needs csh sources, bu any University connected guy can make a binary of tcsh for the 3b1 and distribute that. It has already happened for 386s. You can also try to port the line editing tty line discipline to the 3b1 from SysV/386; I think it should be a pretty easy exercise. It has been posted to alt.sources and comp.unix.i386. I use it on my 386 without any ksh or tcsh, just the stock bourne shell, and I like it giving history to all commands I use, not just the shell. krohn> Nawk would be nice (but perl is better :-). gawk is there too. Another nice thing is the Vixie cron. Also GNU tar. I think that two of the most useful things are the GNU fileutils, which include a 'mv' command that will move around directories like the BSD one, 'mmv' which renames files using patterns, and 'rh' that does the same thing as find but is much much better. Well, the endless list will not be reproduced here. krohn> Sam would be really nice (ported to mgr, of course). Incidentally, remember elvis, the vi clone that is IMNHO a bit better than vi itself. -- Piercarlo Grandi | ARPA: pcg%uk.ac.aber.cs@nsfnet-relay.ac.uk Dept of CS, UCW Aberystwyth | UUCP: ...!mcsun!ukc!aber-cs!pcg Penglais, Aberystwyth SY23 3BZ, UK | INET: pcg@cs.aber.ac.uk