Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!usc!apple!well!mingo From: mingo@well.sf.ca.us (Charles Hawkins Mingo) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc Subject: Re: DAT backup for MAC? Message-ID: <23205@well.sf.ca.us> Date: 17 Feb 91 22:57:02 GMT References: <789@david.UUCP> <23192@well.sf.ca.us> <10851@jarthur.Claremont.EDU> Organization: Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link, Sausalito, CA Lines: 35 In article <10851@jarthur.Claremont.EDU> epan@jarthur.Claremont.EDU (Eric C. Pan) writes: > > Charlie Mingo talked in his post about unusability of audio DATs for >computer backup due to the lack of control. But what about Sony's >L-control(?), S-control(?) and Pioneer's control system. A lot of companies >produce components that had control interfaces intended for control by a >reciever/pre-amp. Are those usable from a computer-control standpoint? Well, I'm no expert on the specifics of L-Control, S-Control, et al., but the reciever/pre-amp coordination system are usually only designed to do simple things like "start PLAY" or "REWind", not "advance to frame 08A3F1 and transmit the next sixty frames." A computer controller requires extremely precise control over the device, so that specific locations can be reliably accessed. It also usually needs some sort of error detection/ correction system, which audio DATs generally lack. (Audio DAT's have mechanisms to make errors less noticable, such as interpolation, but data DAT's have to eliminate errors completely.) And consumer DAT's *do* produce a lot of errors of the bit level. According to reports on the dat-heads mailing list, 2500 errors/second is not unheard of. This is not a problem for recording *music*, but data would be really corrupted by this. (The best DAT's have around 100 errors/second.) >p.s. I believe the 10mg/tape capacity Charlie quoted is based on hardware >compression and not the "real" or "raw" storage capacity of DAT tapes. Well, that was 10GB (GigaBytes), and there surely is some compression involved, but I've never seen a DAT data cassette system which offered less than 2GB. Remember that the PCM system involves around 1.5 million bits/ second of recording time, which suggests a "raw" data storage of 1.35GB on a 120min cassette. -- ______________________________________________________________________________ Charlie Mingo Internet: mingo@well.sf.ca.us 2209 Washington Circle #2 mingo@cup.portal.com Washington, DC 20037 CI$: 71340,2152 AT&T: 202/785-2089