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From: ph@cci632.UUCP (Pete Hoch)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.programmer
Subject: Re: Beta and E.T.O. (Apple crispies)
Summary: ETO is just fine with me, thank you.
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Date: 19 Feb 91 18:00:39 GMT
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> jordan@Apple.COM (Jordan Mattson) writes
>> If you are a leading edge developer, who would use beta products, then E.T.O.
>>is the product for you.  For $300.00 a year, you stay current with the latest
>>and greatest from Apple.  I highly recommend that you take the plunge, along
>>with a lot of other developers, and go for E.T.O.


laird@chinet.chi.il.us (Laird J. Heal) writes:
> ***FLAME ON***
> I do not have a CD-ROM drive (I did for six months but never opened the box)
> but what is wrong with using the develop disks?  They cost $30/yr, right?
> For $300/yr, I highly recommend that you put finals on E.T.O.  How can we
> justify such a cost for unfinished software, just because there is room
> on the media?  How can we justify the time to wade through and discover
> what is worth our time to use?
> ***FLAME OFF***

I realize that the quote from Jordan says that ETO contains Beta and
pre final software, but he never said ONLY!!!!

As a subscriber from ETO #1 I can say that it contains all the latest
final versions of MPW, MPW C, MPW C++, MPW Assembler, MPW Pascal, MacApp,
and probably other things I can't remember.  It also has SpinsideMac,
Tech Notes stack, DTS FAQ stack, and more things that I can not remember.
It ALSO contains Beta and Prefinal releases of MPW stuff, MacApp, and
other tools etc. such as virtual user.  Oh, one more thing.  When one
of the items on ETO goes final you get all the final printed documentation
for it.

Pete Hoch