Path: utzoo!mnetor!tmsoft!torsqnt!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!wuarchive!uwm.edu!bionet!agate!ziploc!eps From: eps@toaster.SFSU.EDU (Eric P. Scott) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next Subject: 4MB SIMMs from Chip Merchant: 4MBx9 yes 4MBx8 no Message-ID: <1324@toaster.SFSU.EDU> Date: 16 Feb 91 11:19:31 GMT Reply-To: eps@cs.SFSU.EDU (Eric P. Scott) Organization: San Francisco State University Lines: 39 In our last stroll down Memory Lane, our requisition for Peripheral Outlet memory turned into a Purchase Order to Chip Merchant, thanks to an "alert" employee who "saved us" $4 per SIMM. Chip Merchant's using Samsung chips* on a generic PC board. (There are no markings other than an inspection stamp.) They're about 1/8" taller than the 1MB SIMMs. ---------- ---------- ---------- ---------- ---------- | || || || || | ---------- ---------- ---------- ---------- ---------- ---------- ---------- ---------- ---------- | || || || | ---------- ---------- ---------- ---------- U U U U U U U U U U U U U U U U U U U U U U U U U U U U U U *NeXT currently ships "genuine" Samsung 1MBx8 SIMMs in 8MB NeXTstations. Traditional cubes came with Toshiba SIMMs. The 4MBx9 (parity) SIMMs work fine in the NeXTstation. The 4MBx8 (non-parity) SIMMs didn't; the machine was convinced that they were defective parity SIMMs. Visually, they appear to be identical to the 4MBx9 SIMMs, but with one chip missing: ---------- ---------- ---------- ---------- .... .... | || || || | o o ---------- ---------- ---------- ---------- .... .... ---------- ---------- ---------- ---------- | || || || | ---------- ---------- ---------- ---------- U U U U U U U U U U U U U U U U U U U U U U U U U U U U U U Not knowing the specifics of how the machine determines what kind of SIMM it has, I don't know if these are trivially fixable (add a jumper/cut a trace?). We're probably going to send these back next week and give them another chance. -=EPS=-