Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!swrinde!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!ncar!midway!gargoyle!chinet!pdg From: pdg@chinet.chi.il.us (Paul Guthrie) Newsgroups: comp.unix.sysv386 Subject: Re: SECURITY BUG IN INTERACTIVE UNIX SYSV386 Keywords: BAD BUG Message-ID: <1991Feb19.042353.27075@chinet.chi.il.us> Date: 19 Feb 91 04:23:53 GMT References: <1991Feb12.085747.8468@specialix.co.uk> <27B93F44.5606@tct.uucp> <3214@sixhub.UUCP> Organization: The League of Crafty Hackers Lines: 21 I'm sick of people calling this a "gaping kind-you-can-drive-a-truck-through hole" in UNIX security. If it was so gaping, how come it has never come up here before, like so many other obscure problems? ISC was fixing this, and if that idiot had kept his mouth shut, it would have been fixed in time, without many of us rushing out to buy coprocessors. He even admitted it didn't affect his site. This was an act of pure stupidity. If indeed he had been after ISC to get a fix, why wasn't a note like: "There is a terrible bug in ISC UNIX security that allows root access instantaneously. I have mailed the problem to ISC (or reported the bug) to ISC and will post the problem in 3 months. The clock is ticking ISC...." posted. The posting of source code to crack a system and binaries even was nothing more than glory-hounding, sort of like saying "See what I know and you don't". This person is immature, irresponsible and has caused a lot of people a lot of trouble. If indeed his cause was to get the bug fixed to stop "security problems" he would not have caused a multitude more in the short term. -- Paul Guthrie chinet!nsacray!paul or pdg@balr.com or attmail!balr!pdg