Path: utzoo!mnetor!tmsoft!itcyyz!yrloc!rbe From: rbe@yrloc.ipsa.reuter.COM (Robert Bernecky) Newsgroups: comp.unix.sysv386 Subject: Re: SECURITY BUG IN INTERACTIVE UNIX SYSV386 Keywords: BAD BUG Message-ID: <1991Feb19.063910.23657@yrloc.ipsa.reuter.COM> Date: 19 Feb 91 06:39:10 GMT References: <329@alderan.uucp> <330@alderan.uucp> Reply-To: rbe@yrloc.ipsa.reuter.COM (Robert Bernecky) Organization: I P Sharp Associates, Toronto Lines: 26 I have been watching the flood of "oh, how could they ever be so stupid/ incompetent", etc messages go by on this topic, but I can't take it no more Captain... Anybody who is stuck writing programs in ANY computer language, including APL and C today is going to write code that has bugs in it. Period. ENd of story. No way around it. Programming is not YET an engineering type of job. Should be. Ain't. Nobody knows how to make it so. Heaping shit on the developers is NOT going to help anyone. If you want to make a concrete contribution to the world of computing, figure out how to turn computing from an art into a science. I have yet to meet a computer scientist, in spite of working in this trade since 1962. Stop wringing your paws, and get down and do some USEFUL work. Jeesh. Of course, it is highly desirable for the developers of said bug to provide a fix asap. AND to ensure they don't reintroduce it later on, and so on. Bob Bernecky Snake Island Research Inc.