Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!uunet!uaisun4!mrl From: mrl@uai.com (Mark R. Ludwig) Newsgroups: news.software.b Subject: Unsubscribed newsgroups in C News log Message-ID: <1991Feb20.024549.8050@uai.com> Date: 20 Feb 91 02:45:49 GMT Sender: mrl@uai.com (Mark R. Ludwig) Reply-To: mrl@uai.com (Mark R. Ludwig) Organization: Universal Analytics, Inc., Playa del Rey, CA Lines: 65 First of all, I hope I'm not wasting time and/or net bandwidth with this question, but it's driving me nuts. I hope this is the correct newsgroup for my question. I have been reading this newsgroup for the last several weeks, and have seen no mention of a problem such as this. I consider myself a novice at Usenet administration, so bear with me if I mangle the terminology (or the King's English)... By way of background, let me describe our configuration, just in case I am describing a "known problem." I retrieved C News from UUNET in late October; I don't know what "release" designation it has, if any. The machine is a Sun-4/260 running SunOS 4.1. I have installed C News in non-standard directories (such as /usr/local/bin instead of /usr/bin and /etc/news instead of /usr/lib/news), but the configuration and build scripts seem to have dealt with that quite nicely (thanks to the UTZoo team!). I have not tinkered with any of the programs; however, I have been loosening some of the protections of files and binaries in the target directories, in response to other errors (awk being unable to open $BINDIR/relay/canonsys.awk comes to mind immediately). Overall, I'm quite pleased with C News. Now to the subject problem... Sometime since starting the daily maintenance script ($NEWSBIN/maint/newsdaily) we began getting some reports of errors which I do not understand. Due to my naivety, I didn't start the daily maintenance scripts on day one, so unfortunately I don't know how long this has been happening. Here's an example from $NEWSCTL/log.o (which I have wrapped for readability--it's one line in the file): Feb 19 03:15:27.510 uunet - no subscribed groups in `gnu.emacs.help' This problem is not limited to this one newsgroup; there are 21 complaints in today's log, naming 3 other newsgroups. Despite this message, some posts in the named newsgroups succeed in making it into the spool. For example, here are the last few entries from the spool directory for gnu.emacs.help: -rw-rw-r-- 1 news 1121 Feb 19 03:15 gnu/emacs/help/109 -rw-rw-r-- 1 news 2162 Feb 19 03:15 gnu/emacs/help/108 -rw-rw-r-- 1 news 28133 Feb 18 03:15 gnu/emacs/help/107 Clearly, *some* posts are getting through. Here are the relevant lines from our active file (we have 36 entries): gnu.emacs.help 0000000109 0000000001 y gnu.emacs.bug 0000000001 0000000001 m gnu.emacs.gnus 0000000005 0000000001 y gnu.gdb.bug 0000000001 0000000001 m The complaints are more prevalent for the gnu.* newsgroups, but since our volume is so low, these are among the most-active ones UUNET feeds us. Some of the complaints name groups which have no articles in our spool. (Side question: I have searched quite thoroughly and have been unable to find the rejected articles anywhere! I thought I might find them in newsgroup junk. Where are they?) I hope I have described the problem fully, and that someone "out there" has some idea what's happening here, or can point me in the right direction. Thanks in advance for your help...$$ -- PATH: mrl@uai.com UUCP: uunet!uaisun4!mrl PSTN: 213/822-4422 USPS: 7740 West Manchester Boulevard, Suite 208, Playa del Rey, CA 90293