Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!uunet!tdatirv!sarima From: sarima@tdatirv.UUCP (Stanley Friesen) Newsgroups: sci.bio Subject: Re: Paranormal phenomena and evolution Message-ID: <138@tdatirv.UUCP> Date: 14 Feb 91 21:14:20 GMT References: <1435@gtx.com> <6735@harrier.ukc.ac.uk> <104@tdatirv.UUCP> <6747@harrier.ukc.ac.uk> <106@tdatirv.UUCP> <545@zds-ux.UUCP> Reply-To: sarima@tdatirv.UUCP (Stanley Friesen) Organization: Teradata Corp., Irvine Lines: 41 In article <545@zds-ux.UUCP> gerry@zds-ux.UUCP (Gerry Gleason) writes: >This discussion prompted me to speculate about just how the evolutionary >pressures sort out on this issue. I would think that the average height >previous to the recent change would have been in some sense optimal, and >probably hadn't changed much for a while. Doesn't this mean that there >is the possibility that there is now an evolutionary pressure toward being >shorter? I know it would depend on the nature of the pressure and whether >it is still operating. Say that being 4 inches taller increases your risk >for heart attack or other conditions. Wouldn't the actually taller population >be selected back toward the "optimum"? Then if the behavioral conditions >are removed the population would immediately become shorter than it originally >was. Yow!! Good question! It is certainly possible. Though I do not know how we could test it, given the (entirely appropriate) reluctance to experiment on humans. There is also another possibility. It turns out that something superficially similar to 'inheritance of acquired characteristics' does occur. Essentially, when the environment forces a particular growth form on an organism, then any genetic predisposition to that growth form is selected for. This reulsts, eventually in a race that takes the 'enforced' growth form even when it is no longer enforced. The classical example of this is plants growing on exposed headlands next to the ocean. In these environments the salt spray caused erect, exposed branches to be killed, resulting in a low-growing, matted growth form. This growth form shows up even in plants grwon from inland seed sources, that are clearly genetically able to grow taller. However, when a seeds from the coastal plants are grown inland, away from the salt spray, they continue to grow low and flat. [Note, I am talking about plants from the same species, for instance mule-fat here in California]. Applied to the human size situation this could mean that prior to modern diets human size was limited by the environment, and our genetics had evolved to minimize the impact of this 'forced' (dietary) size limit. In this case, we have now been released from the selection for limited size and the genetic component of our size may also be increasing (slowly). -- --------------- uunet!tdatirv!sarima (Stanley Friesen)